Bulb to be Nationalised?
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With all the entrants of new suppliers offering loss leading tariffs the market has become a race to the bottom. Which meant that as a whole the average profit margin has been negative the last 2 years and this is the industry everyone accuses of being super greedy.
Given that all suppliers have been running on very tight or negative margins they’ve not built up any excess capital, which is why this crisis is causing so many to go bust so quickly.
Wholesale costs are just one part of the equation, policy and network costs have risen significantly over the last few years as well.Also while many blame suppliers for not lowering their prices when the wholesale costs fall, now that prices are rising everyone is saying suppliers should have hedged further in advance so they don’t need to increase them.
You can’t have a hedging strategy that means you can quickly lower prices when they fall, and then not increase them when they rise.You can either hedge long in advance and not follow the market as it moves up and down, and so be blamed for not lowering your prices when wholesale costs fall.
or hedge short term, and follow wholesale prices quickly, but meaning you’re left exposed when an event like this happens.
There’s several strategies a supplier can take, and all have their advantages/ disadvantages, but with the CAP some of these strategies are no longer made viable.0 -
Really the choices are between...An open market, where suppliers charge as much or as little as they like, customers get nothing back when they go bust.Or nationalisation, where the government runs it as a public service.At the moment we have an a largely artificial market that is severely restricted to the point that it's ceased to function at all - companies are going bust and nobody can switch.A "race to the bottom" is the sort of term used by companies that don't like competition. This is exactly what a free market should encourage.I doubt that any politician would want to be the one that removes customer protection that already exists, so hopefully nationalisation will be the only remaining solution.1
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i just got an email from Bulb saying their "planning to enter special administration"0
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So, several energy companies go bust and their customers get hoiked onto a higher price supplier.This one goes bust and the customers get to keep their cheap rates.0
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prowla said:So, several energy companies go bust and their customers get hoiked onto a higher price supplier.This one goes bust and the customers get to keep their cheap rates.You probably haven't looked at the Bulb rates recently.They didn't have any fixed rate tariffs, just a capped variable rate.
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The reason for the special administration is that Ofgem didn't think any larger supplier could survive being forced to take on the customers on a price-capped tariff. They were probably right. Suggests other large suppliers will be subject to the same fate if they fail.
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masonic said:The reason for the special administration is that Ofgem didn't think any larger supplier could survive being forced to take on the customers on a price-capped tariff. They were probably right. Suggests other large suppliers will be subject to the same fate if they fail.
I wonder what will happen in the end? Ride out the current crisis and try and sell it off once the market has stabalised maybe? Or if that doesn't work hive off the customer base in portions to the other suppliers?0 -
bagand96 said:I wonder what will happen in the end? Ride out the current crisis and try and sell it off once the market has stabalised maybe? Or if that doesn't work hive off the customer base in portions to the other suppliers?
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masonic said:bagand96 said:I wonder what will happen in the end? Ride out the current crisis and try and sell it off once the market has stabalised maybe? Or if that doesn't work hive off the customer base in portions to the other suppliers?
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