Why are people scrambling for petrol?

Ganga

prowla said:

Lawd - it's only gone and started raining now too!

Are you sure or did you read it in the Sun

TripleH

Ganga said:

prowla said:

Lawd - it's only gone and started raining now too!

Are you sure or did you read it in the Sun

No, a friend of a friend did 😉

jimjames

jimbo6977 said:

jimjames said:

jimbo6977 said:

wolvoman said:

motorguy said:

Reginald74 said:

One thing that these situations bring out that is worse than the panic buyers is the smug moral superiority of the people who call them idiots.

Many of those in the queues will genuinely need fuel, as demonstrated by some posters ok this thread. Wafting past, nose in the air, calling them all idiots and lemmings serves no purpose.

Let's look instead at the government actions that have led us here and sling the mud at the right target.

?

Yeah NOT buying in to the hysteria is obviously much worse than sitting for hours to get petrol unnecessarily. 



Of course theres a small percentage who actually do need the petrol and have got surprised by the sudden demand but lets not kid ourselves - the vast majority are there because they're panic buying unnecessarily.  Just like they did with bog rolls and paracetamols.

I received data this morning on basket spend from several hundred filling stations. The average spend per transaction has plummeted. Mode spend for weekends is usually around £40-£50. This past few days it has been down at £16-£17.
Make of that what you will

There was no shortage the week before, nor the week before that, nor the one before that, when total sales and average transaction were at "normal" levels.

People keep claiming this and it's just not true. BP have stated that they had only 66% of normal fuel levels at petrol stations before this started. When going to fill up last week I was unable to do so as no super was available, few days later super was available but no unleaded or diesel. The situation has been made far worse by the additional purchases over the weekend but to claim there was no problem beforehand is misleading.

"BP have stated..."

Have you any independent evidence to prove the veracity of their statement?

If only journalists did their jobs instead of parroting BP press releases that happen to meet with the media's political leanings, we wouldn't be where we are.

The government have confirmed the statement as leaked so I'm not sure what more confirmation you want?  It was not a BP press release. I tried to fill up last week at Shell and was unable to do so due to lack of supplies, that was before this kicked off at the weekend.

The people blaming the media and suggesting they should be controlled by the government really haven't thought things through and how dangerous that would be. When are the media allowed to report that fuel stations have a problem? Only when 50% of them are empty? 
Social media is more of an issue than the mainstream broadcast media, no idea about newspapers as I don't buy them.

Jenni_D

Ganga said:

prowla said:

Lawd - it's only gone and started raining now too!

Are you sure or did you read it in the Sun

If they're like me, they looked out of the window. 😁

Malkytheheed

Not seeing this panic buying in Scotland? 

jimbo6977

jimjames said:

jimbo6977 said:

jimjames said:

jimbo6977 said:

wolvoman said:

motorguy said:

Reginald74 said:

One thing that these situations bring out that is worse than the panic buyers is the smug moral superiority of the people who call them idiots.

Many of those in the queues will genuinely need fuel, as demonstrated by some posters ok this thread. Wafting past, nose in the air, calling them all idiots and lemmings serves no purpose.

Let's look instead at the government actions that have led us here and sling the mud at the right target.

?

Yeah NOT buying in to the hysteria is obviously much worse than sitting for hours to get petrol unnecessarily. 



Of course theres a small percentage who actually do need the petrol and have got surprised by the sudden demand but lets not kid ourselves - the vast majority are there because they're panic buying unnecessarily.  Just like they did with bog rolls and paracetamols.

I received data this morning on basket spend from several hundred filling stations. The average spend per transaction has plummeted. Mode spend for weekends is usually around £40-£50. This past few days it has been down at £16-£17.
Make of that what you will

There was no shortage the week before, nor the week before that, nor the one before that, when total sales and average transaction were at "normal" levels.

People keep claiming this and it's just not true. BP have stated that they had only 66% of normal fuel levels at petrol stations before this started. When going to fill up last week I was unable to do so as no super was available, few days later super was available but no unleaded or diesel. The situation has been made far worse by the additional purchases over the weekend but to claim there was no problem beforehand is misleading.

"BP have stated..."

Have you any independent evidence to prove the veracity of their statement?

If only journalists did their jobs instead of parroting BP press releases that happen to meet with the media's political leanings, we wouldn't be where we are.

The government have confirmed the statement as leaked so I'm not sure what more confirmation you want?  It was not a BP press release. I tried to fill up last week at Shell and was unable to do so due to lack of supplies, that was before this kicked off at the weekend.

The people blaming the media and suggesting they should be controlled by the government really haven't thought things through and how dangerous that would be. When are the media allowed to report that fuel stations have a problem? Only when 50% of them are empty? 
Social media is more of an issue than the mainstream broadcast media, no idea about newspapers as I don't buy them.

I don't want the media controlled, barring the BBC, which frankly needs shutting down. 

I do think it's a pity that people can't see through the BS - the Mail was rightly ridiculed BTL for describing Raducanu's grazed knee in the US Open as a "gruesome cut" as if she'd been hacked at by an axe-wielding maniac. Yet somehow the same rag is to be believed to the letter when it says there'll soon be no petrol in the country. 

elsien

jimbo6977 said:

jimjames said:

jimbo6977 said:

jimjames said:

jimbo6977 said:

wolvoman said:

motorguy said:

Reginald74 said:

One thing that these situations bring out that is worse than the panic buyers is the smug moral superiority of the people who call them idiots.

Many of those in the queues will genuinely need fuel, as demonstrated by some posters ok this thread. Wafting past, nose in the air, calling them all idiots and lemmings serves no purpose.

Let's look instead at the government actions that have led us here and sling the mud at the right target.

?

Yeah NOT buying in to the hysteria is obviously much worse than sitting for hours to get petrol unnecessarily. 



Of course theres a small percentage who actually do need the petrol and have got surprised by the sudden demand but lets not kid ourselves - the vast majority are there because they're panic buying unnecessarily.  Just like they did with bog rolls and paracetamols.

I received data this morning on basket spend from several hundred filling stations. The average spend per transaction has plummeted. Mode spend for weekends is usually around £40-£50. This past few days it has been down at £16-£17.
Make of that what you will

There was no shortage the week before, nor the week before that, nor the one before that, when total sales and average transaction were at "normal" levels.

People keep claiming this and it's just not true. BP have stated that they had only 66% of normal fuel levels at petrol stations before this started. When going to fill up last week I was unable to do so as no super was available, few days later super was available but no unleaded or diesel. The situation has been made far worse by the additional purchases over the weekend but to claim there was no problem beforehand is misleading.

"BP have stated..."

Have you any independent evidence to prove the veracity of their statement?

If only journalists did their jobs instead of parroting BP press releases that happen to meet with the media's political leanings, we wouldn't be where we are.

The government have confirmed the statement as leaked so I'm not sure what more confirmation you want?  It was not a BP press release. I tried to fill up last week at Shell and was unable to do so due to lack of supplies, that was before this kicked off at the weekend.

The people blaming the media and suggesting they should be controlled by the government really haven't thought things through and how dangerous that would be. When are the media allowed to report that fuel stations have a problem? Only when 50% of them are empty? 
Social media is more of an issue than the mainstream broadcast media, no idea about newspapers as I don't buy them.

I don't want the media controlled, barring the BBC, which frankly needs shutting down. 

I do think it's a pity that people can't see through the BS - the Mail was rightly ridiculed BTL for describing Raducanu's grazed knee in the US Open as a "gruesome cut" as if she'd been hacked at by an axe-wielding maniac. Yet somehow the same rag is to be believed to the letter when it says there'll soon be no petrol in the country. 

I've passed a number of petrol stations today with petrol with perfectly manageable queues - in fact the one I went to didn't have a queue. The general hysteria really does need to calm down. 

user1977

Malkytheheed said:

Not seeing this panic buying in Scotland? 

No, I didn't have any queues or shortages when I filled up in Edinburgh on Sunday. Though on Twitter there seem to be places running dry here and there. Not sure if it's just because it's easier for us to get deliveries from Grangemouth - I get the impression places further north might be having more trouble.

Vegastare

Well I mentioned partner and his laid back all is ok attitude - well just spoke to me and first thing I asked was about petrol ques, yes he had pasted a couple this morning but just stopped at overnight stay and guess what the station down the road has plenty and no ques...

molerat

user1977 said:

Malkytheheed said:

Not seeing this panic buying in Scotland? 

No, I didn't have any queues or shortages when I filled up in Edinburgh on Sunday. Though on Twitter there seem to be places running dry here and there. Not sure if it's just because it's easier for us to get deliveries from Grangemouth - I get the impression places further north might be having more trouble.

No problems here in the north.  Not all fuel comes out of Grangemouth - well it does but not by road !  We also had no problems when there was a blockade at Grangemouth, ours was coming out the back door. Most of the petrol stations here, of whichever brand, receive their fuel in a plain white tanker

I posted this morning :

Absolute panic here.  2 cars and the delivery tanker in Asda and 4 cars in Tesco.  Maybe a bit of common sense being used