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  • QrizB
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    VT41 said:
    From the Ofgem website 
    21p per kWh for electricity customers and 4p per kWh for gas customers.
    Here are the actual cap values:


    VT41 said:

    Estimated annual electricity usage - 2000KwH  . 0.21 * 2000 = £420
    Gas - Estimated 9000Kwh
    Assuming you are in the North West:
    • Elec 84.76 + 2000 x 0.2014 = 487.56
    • Gas 90.81 + 9000 x 0.0404 = 454.41
    • Total = 941.97
    If you aren't in the North West, substitute the correct regional values.
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  • jimjames
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    edited 24 September 2021 at 8:14AM
    VT41 said:
    VT41 said:
    I was with Avro, as we know they have gone bust.  For context 1 bed flat, 1 person. 

    I'm in the process of switching to British Evolve. Fixed for 2 years. Approx £78 per month. £960 year. Gas Unit price 5.18  . Electricity 20.2

    The current price cap ( based on a medium usage household, 3 people household) £1277, let's assume they increase it to £1500 

    I'm 60% of a medium household. 60% of £1500 = £900 year

    Am I better to wait and go on the standard tariff for a year and then assess and see if the wholesale prices reduce thereby potentially fixing at a lower rate then? This is on the assumption I stay with the most expensive capped standard variable tariff in which I would hope to also find a cheaper one in that time..

    Thoughts?
    There is no point working it out with all that "one person = 60%" - you can't possibly get an accurate answer.

    Use exact kWh annual usage for gas and electricity separately to do a proper comparison otherwise you could totally miscalculate the best deals.

    The Ofgem rates are based on 12,000kWh gas and 3,100kWh elec and therefore can only be used as a comparison if you usage is exactly that.

    For example I'm a 4 person household yet I use double the Ofgem cap benchmark in electricity but only 25% more in gas which I expect to drop dramatically this winter with everyone out of lockdown and back out of the house during the day - probably will drop to the Ofgem cap consumption.

    If I was to compare my energy bills by saying I'm a 25% bigger household than the cap that would work out totally wrong for me - it comes to £1600 based on 1st Oct cap when in fact I'm fixed on rates much lower than the price cap paying £1800 because I'm skewed by the high electricity consumption - whereas if I was paying the actual cap rates per kWh then my bill would be £2120 per year.

    I also bear in mind the fact that most of my gas usage is in winter where I use about £90 per month peak in January but only £16 in the summer months whereas my elec usage is fairly flat all year round. Having a lower gas tariff for the next 6 months makes a bigger difference than it will come April next year.

    Just makes no sense to compare with "60% of the cap", so do a kWh comparison of annual cost.
    From the Ofgem website 

    21p per kWh for electricity customers and 4p per kWh for gas customers. 

    Estimated annual electricity usage - 2000KwH  . 0.21 * 2000 = £420

    Gas - Estimated 9000Kwh 

    With it being set at 0.40p  * 8500kwh = 3600? - This doesn't seem right, where am I going wrong?

    Appreciate the help

    Actually it's £0.04, you've used 21p and 40p for your numbers.

    If you want to play with the figures then this calculator will let you enter them energy.jj99.co.uk
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