IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

JLA "Stopping" Charge

12223242527

Comments

  • Router66
    Router66 Posts: 185 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Hi @Grizebeck, the case is a block listing at Stockport.
  • Grizebeck
    Grizebeck Posts: 3,967 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Second Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 19 October 2022 at 11:17AM
    Router66 said:
    Hi @Grizebeck, the case is a block listing at Stockport.
    So yes it will just be heard by the next available just on the list and could be one of any 3 or so judges
  • Router66
    Router66 Posts: 185 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Thanks for the insight @Grizebeck...I wondered how it worked. When the judge adjourned the first hearing, she made it clear to the VCS Rep that their client would not be getting the £60 added to the initial charge. The judge also said that she sits at the Stockport court 4 days a week and there would be a good chance she would hear the re-listed case.
    The N24 has named a different judge but hopefully the judge from the first hearing is available as she was not impressed with the case brought by VCS.
  • Router66
    Router66 Posts: 185 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    I have edited my post on 18 October at 9:57AM which now shows the body text for the Email to the court and claimant.
    The Schedule of Costs attachment has also been edited to refer to the (ongoing) preparation of a replacement Index (rather than a replacement 192-page bundle).

    The hearing date is in two weeks so I would like to send this Email today/tomorrow. Please advise any further suggestions. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,899 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Router66 said:
    No-one said 'request a preliminary hearing'. Yep, apologies, wrong choice of words...raise a preliminary matter, (like you said!)
    Draft Cost Assessment below...is this over the top? 

    Edited 19/10/22...

    Email body text to court and claimant:

    Dear Sir/Madam,

                               please find attached my Schedule of Costs in respect of claim number XXXXXXXX to be heard at the County Court of Stockport on 3rd November 2022. 
    YF
    Word Docx text in the attachment: 

    In the County Court at Stockport

    Claim Number: XXXXXXXX

    Hearing Date: 03/11/2022

    DEFENDANT’S SCHEDULE OF COSTS:

    Ordinary Costs:

    Loss of earnings through attendance at court hearing 03/11/2022: £95.00

    Rail Travel                                                                                       £12.50

    Shortfall due from court costs awarded on 30/07/2022                   £0.50

    Further costs for Claimant’s unreasonable behaviour, pursuant to Civil Procedure Rule 44.11

    Research, preparation and drafting documents:

    MP Correspondence: 1 hour

    Re-visiting the claimant's site: 2 hours

    LJLA correspondence regarding complaint: 2hrs

    Documents – LBC, (2 hrs) Defence, (3 hrs) Witness Statement + Evidence (6 hrs)

    * Replacement Index (4 hrs):

    Total 20 hours at Litigant in Person rate of £19 per hour): £380

    Stationary, printing, photocopying and postage: £24

     

    * Note: The combined bundle prepared by the Claimant (per the court's order) was very confusing and would be impossible for any party to use effectively. Accordingly, it is my intention to prepare a replacement index to assist the court on the day of the hearing. 

    TOTAL COSTS CLAIMED £512.00

     

    Signature:


    Defendant:

    XX/XX/2022

     



    That looks good - far better than a new bundle - but costs shouldn't be a Word doc.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Router66
    Router66 Posts: 185 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Thanks for the thumbs up CM...Will send as a PDF to the claimant and the court.
  • Router66
    Router66 Posts: 185 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Further costs for Claimant’s unreasonable behaviour, pursuant to Civil Procedure Rule 44.11
    In my Schedule of Costs I have quoted CPR 44.11, the source of which was from the Newbies section.
    When I later started reading up about unreasonable behaviour, I have come across CPR 27.14 (2) (g) which seems more relevant than anything I can find under CPR 44.11.
    I would be grateful if anyone could explain which rule unreasonable behaviour is pursuant to, and if CPR 27.14 (2) (g) can I submit a revised version of my Schedule of Costs to replace those which have already been sent to the court and claimant? 
  • Router66
    Router66 Posts: 185 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Router66 said:
    Further costs for Claimant’s unreasonable behaviour, pursuant to Civil Procedure Rule 44.11
    In my Schedule of Costs, I have quoted CPR 44.11, the source of which was from the Newbies section.
    When I later started reading up about unreasonable behaviour, I have come across CPR 27.14 (2) (g) which seems more relevant than anything I can find under CPR 44.11.
    I would be grateful if anyone could explain which rule unreasonable behaviour is pursuant to, and if CPR 27.14 (2) (g) can I submit a revised version of my Schedule of Costs to replace those which have already been sent to the court and claimant? 
    I have now come across another thread that refers to CPR 44.11 so will stick with this rule. I appreciate the forum advice on the required subtlety of bringing unreasonable behaviour to the attention of the judge, so I have produced a crib note to read out rather than try and remember all the issues. Any feedback much appreciated. 

    Before the judge opens proceedings, ask permission to raise a preliminary matter and point out...


    The bundle I have received has not been fully paginated or correctly indexed and is therefore not compliant with the court order point 2 dated 30th July 2022.

    • Pages numbers 18-30 have not been paginated and remain exactly as they were in the claimant’s original bundle...overwritten and obliterated.

    • The claimant’s site information, notices and evidence are indexed incorrectly on page 132 (also not paginated) under “Defendant’s Evidence.”

    • The claimant has re-paginated all of my evidence, rendering my index and the rest of the bundle unworkable.
    Furthermore:

    The claimant has also failed to comply with point 3 of the court order, to pay me £82 earnings and £12.50 travel by the 8th of August 2022.

    • I received a cheque for £94 postmarked 9th August 2022 and delivered on the 11th of August 2022 (cheque was therefore 3 days late and 50p short of the amount ordered).

    Given that the claimant has a designated litigation team there can be no reasonable explanation to justify why the claimant has ridden roughshod over three court orders; by doing so the claimant has delayed the outcome of this claim and extended the anxiety which has impacted on my peace of mind and daily life for nearly 4 years. 

    Ref. White Book (annotation 38.6.1): "Note that the normal rule as to costs does not apply if a claimant in a case allocated to the small claims track serves a notice of discontinuance although it might be contended that costs should be awarded if a party has behaved unreasonably (r.27.14(2) (dg))."  I therefore respectfully ask the court to consider the behaviour of the claimant unreasonable, not solely for ignoring the court orders but also on the basis of the claimants wholly unreasonable conduct throughout.


  • Jenni_D
    Jenni_D Posts: 5,435 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    Well done - ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST!

    Excellent court report. :) 
    Jenni x
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.