Tenants won't leave property we're buying..

deannagone

But I am afraid they aren't going to be providing the sort of 'affordable' rental property that most people who are having problems moving on can rent. Looking at the various schemes, these companies are providing more high end type rental properties.  This will do little for ordinary people who are struggling to find a property to rent they can afford.

lookstraightahead

Op, if you weed out the facts from the opinions you will find that your tenants dont 'have' to leave for probably about a year.

they might go but from their perspective, where will they go? 

You may be lucky, but if I were you I would move on. And please do not buy without vacant possession.

next time don't buy somewhere with tenants in. 

Tatters26

Exodi said:

@OP, you mention that the s21 expires mid-September... please let us know if the local council reaches out to the tenants in the next couple of days or if the landlord does indeed need to get a possession order?

Their tenancy expires on the 23rd and they have an appointment with the council at 3pm on the 22nd to try and find them something, or so I'm told.

Exodi

Tatters26 said:

Exodi said:

@OP, you mention that the s21 expires mid-September... please let us know if the local council reaches out to the tenants in the next couple of days or if the landlord does indeed need to get a possession order?

Their tenancy expires on the 23rd and they have an appointment with the council at 3pm on the 22nd to try and find them something, or so I'm told.

I mean, if that does happen and it all plays out - that would be a great result and I'll accept looking stupid!

Tatters26

Exodi said:

I mean, if that does happen and it all plays out - that would be a great result and I'll accept looking stupid!

I hope so! Anyway we'll see this week out and see exactly what happens next week. Hopefully something positive comes of it for all parties, but I fear 24th will come around and we'll have to start looking properly elsewhere.

MaryNB

Tatters26 said:

Exodi said:

@OP, you mention that the s21 expires mid-September... please let us know if the local council reaches out to the tenants in the next couple of days or if the landlord does indeed need to get a possession order?

Their tenancy expires on the 23rd and they have an appointment with the council at 3pm on the 22nd to try and find them something, or so I'm told.

No, it's the S21 notice that expires on the 23rd. The tenancy doesn't end unless the tenants have given notice that they will leave on that date. If the tenants haven't given notice to leave they are stull fully entitled to live at the property and the tenancy is still completely valid. If they do go to the council on the 22nd it is very likely that the council will say that they have to stay until they are evicted by bailiffs if they want a council house - that is a standard requirement by many councils. There isn't enough social housing to help people who are under threat of eviction, councils often focus only on those who have been evicted and are now homeless. The tenants still have a home for many many months to come. 

The end of the S21 notice period just means the landlord can now go to court for an eviction order, that's all it means. 

steampowered

Tatters26 said:

Their tenancy expires on the 23rd and they have an appointment with the council at 3pm on the 22nd to try and find them something, or so I'm told.

The waiting list for council properties in many areas is several years long. The council will not find emergency accommodation for people until they have actually been evicted by bailiffs.

The chance of this meeting with the council resulting in an outcome which means you can quickly move into the property must be close to zero. 

AdrianC

An s21 alone does not end a tenancy. Only the tenant and a court can actually end the tenancy. The s21 is a formal request from the landlord for the tenant to move out else they will start the court process.

Nobody knows exactly how long the queue for a possession hearing is for somebody joining the back of it now, simply because the answer is somewhere in the future. We do know for a fact, though, that it was substantial before it was put on hold for a period during lockdowns. It will not have got shorter. Two years is probably a reasonable guess.

There is absolutely nothing you, OP, can do about it. You are not a party to the tenancy. The landlord can make a financial offer to the tenants to leave - and you could, of course, offer to recompense the landlord for that should the tenants accept. But nobody can legally force them to leave, bar a court granting a possession order eventually.

It is massively unlikely the council will offer anything at all until they are forced to leave by a court. Even then, it is entirely likely that it will be some form of emergency housing rather than a property "of their own".

There are no winners at all in this situation.

Tatters26

So, I'm sure this makes little difference but throwing it out there.

Just been told the council currently subsidise the rent of the tenant and it's not an entirely private agreement. The council were informed back in March this was to end in September, and the tenant wants their property back. I'm clutching at straws but I'm hoping this may speed it up, but I doubt it. 

I duck and prepare for a barrage of abuse!

elsien

The council may  be paying housing benefit towards the rent, but the tenancy and the obligations around that remain with the landlord named on the tenancy agreement.