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Neighbor's bins blocking passage between our respective houses

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  • Thanks! Does my landlord have this document? I could ask him. Otherwise, is this form the right one https://onlinelandregistry.org.uk/apply/deed-search? (cause it's £20.00+vat for "General Filed Deed")
  • GDB2222
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    gilbutre said:
    Thanks all. I can confirm that the bike doesn't block the neighbor's storeroom door (thanks @user1977), and only blocks access to my garden - which I suppose is not my neighbor's problem. So the bike doesn't block anything related to the neighbor whereas their bins do block access to my gardenfrom the street.

    I did ask them to put their bins somewhere else and they did so for a while, but after recently returning from vacation they moved the bins back on the passway.

    I'm planning to talk to them again but obviously they'll try to stand their ground, hence my looking for some definite and objective argument I can use to settle the matter in my daughter's favor. 

    Oh dear! As others have said, you'll need both sets of deeds. Plus you'll need the plans on the Land Registry. That is going to cost £10 (?). Just so that you can have a really good argument with your neighbours!

    When you do look at the LR, you may find that the neighbours have a right of way over the whole passageway right up to your garden. So, the correct position may well be no bins, but also no bike, and you need to keep the bike in the storeroom or the back garden. 

    I strongly recommend that you have another friendly chat with your neighbour, and try to work something out. Maybe, you'll agree then to have a look at the Land Registry together, or maybe you'll come up with another solution. Good luck.

    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • p00hsticks
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    edited 10 September 2021 at 5:26PM
    GDB2222 said:

    Oh dear! As others have said, you'll need both sets of deeds. Plus you'll need the plans on the Land Registry. That is going to cost £10 (?). Just so that you can have a really good argument with your neighbours!



    You probably don't need the deeds or the plans, just the title register (cost £3 providing you use the offical gov.uk site and not one out to make a quick buck from the unwary).
    We have a similar situation, wher the neighbouring property has a right of way through the entry between the two properties
    Section C (Charges Register) on our Land Register title contains the following
    "Subject to such right of road (if any) through the entry leading from XXXXXXXXX Road to the property hereby conveyed as may have been granted to the owner of the adjoining messuage" f

  • GDB2222
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    edited 10 September 2021 at 6:01PM
    GDB2222 said:

    Oh dear! As others have said, you'll need both sets of deeds. Plus you'll need the plans on the Land Registry. That is going to cost £10 (?). Just so that you can have a really good argument with your neighbours!



    You probably don't need the deeds or the plans, just the title register (cost £3 providing you use the offical gov.uk site and not one out to make a quick buck from the unwary).
    We have a similar situation, wher the neighbouring property has a right of way through the entry between the two properties
    Section C (Charges Register) on our Land Register title contains the following
    "Subject to such right of road (if any) through the entry leading from XXXXXXXXX Road to the property hereby conveyed as may have been granted to the owner of the adjoining messuage" f

    OTOH, my wife's title states:

    The land in this title has a right of way for all purposes over the

    land tinted brown on the filed plan.


    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • bouicca21
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    Totally OTT but given the current level of bike thefts I wouldn’t be leaving daughter’s bike anywhere easily accessible without locking it to a secure immovable object.
  • If there's a door at the end of the passage to the OP's garden I wonder if it is also for access to the neighbours garden? This was often the case (although a gate may have been replaced by a fence at some point so it's not obvious).

    I don't think the OP can keep a bike in the passage if they are insisting that the neighbour removes the bins - but where does the OP keep their bins?
  • Mojisola
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    GDB2222 said:
    OTOH, my wife's title states:

    The land in this title has a right of way for all purposes over the

    land tinted brown on the filed plan.

    That sounds as if the passageway is owned by the neighbours but you have the right of way across it.
    It shouldn't be blocked by anything, even movable bins.
  • Can't you just ask them to move the bins?
  • I don't read the OP saying the bike is stored in the passageway, just that the bins make it more difficult to get the bike through it.
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