Need Help. Over £12,500!

wooderson

We did tell Del Grosso verbally numerous times that we had permission to park there from the commercial units but of course he ignored this. Also sent Autosec a letter but this was ignored.

We also asked the Freeholder company to help us to tell the parking company to stop giving us tickets because we had permission. This is when the Freeholder company said he thinks we shouldn't have to pay because we had verbal permission but then they also lied to us and said that they did not know who owned the land at the back and and who was in charge of contracting the PPC so they couldn't help us. But actually it was the Freeholder company responsible for this all along.

Lying to our face and sneakily trying to extort us working class people behind our backs....despicable! A huge management company who probably rake in millions from ground rent per year but then trying their luck to milk 12k from us.

Yes, I "racked" up multiple tickets because from the beginning I believed they were frivolous and are no more than just mental duress in getting us to pay or stop parking there which we are under no legal obligation to do so. And I wasn't going to be intimidated by this paper terrorism....or bent over for lack of a better term.

I am someone who always pays and parks appropriately when it comes it council parking or PPC parking but in this case I believe that what they're doing is just not right....morally and legally.

D_P_Dance

From what I have read, it is very unlikely that Mr DG would wish to face a judge.  Why not all his bluff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38mE6ba3qj8

Voyeurmse

D_P_Dance said:

From what I have read, it is very unlikely that Mr DG would wish to face a judge.  Why not all his bluff.

Would he even have to attend if he has solicitors to represent him?

Exodi

This tread was well worth the read.

Good luck OP - be sure to update this thread with progress.

Coupon-mad

wooderson said:

We did tell Del Grosso verbally numerous times that we had permission to park there from the commercial units but of course he ignored this. Also sent Autosec a letter but this was ignored.

We also asked the Freeholder company to help us to tell the parking company to stop giving us tickets because we had permission. This is when the Freeholder company said he thinks we shouldn't have to pay because we had verbal permission but then they also lied to us and said that they did not know who owned the land at the back and and who was in charge of contracting the PPC so they couldn't help us. But actually it was the Freeholder company responsible for this all along.

Lying to our face and sneakily trying to extort us working class people behind our backs....despicable! A huge management company who probably rake in millions from ground rent per year but then trying their luck to milk 12k from us.

Yes, I "racked" up multiple tickets because from the beginning I believed they were frivolous and are no more than just mental duress in getting us to pay or stop parking there which we are under no legal obligation to do so. And I wasn't going to be intimidated by this paper terrorism....or bent over for lack of a better term.

I am someone who always pays and parks appropriately when it comes it council parking or PPC parking but in this case I believe that what they're doing is just not right....morally and legally.

We are with you (well most regulars are).  You are preaching to the converted  and we will assist you but for that amount of money I'd be tempted to engage a solicitor.  How about sounding out the firm that represented Ms Jopson in her appeal case v Homeguard, even if they are out if your area?  Google it.

hullensien

Hi
Where is the car park?

Terry1931

wooderson said:

We did tell Del Grosso verbally numerous times that we had permission to park there from the commercial units but of course he ignored this. Also sent Autosec a letter but this was ignored.

We also asked the Freeholder company to help us to tell the parking company to stop giving us tickets because we had permission. This is when the Freeholder company said he thinks we shouldn't have to pay because we had verbal permission but then they also lied to us and said that they did not know who owned the land at the back and and who was in charge of contracting the PPC so they couldn't help us. But actually it was the Freeholder company responsible for this all along.

Lying to our face and sneakily trying to extort us working class people behind our backs....despicable! A huge management company who probably rake in millions from ground rent per year but then trying their luck to milk 12k from us.

Yes, I "racked" up multiple tickets because from the beginning I believed they were frivolous and are no more than just mental duress in getting us to pay or stop parking there which we are under no legal obligation to do so. And I wasn't going to be intimidated by this paper terrorism....or bent over for lack of a better term.

I am someone who always pays and parks appropriately when it comes it council parking or PPC parking but in this case I believe that what they're doing is just not right....morally and legally.

Perhaps it was wisest to have stopped parking there until you clarified in writing immediately after the First Parking charge notice that your household received back in 2018. To clarify in writing which cars and or persons were permitted to use the parking area. Then only to have resumed parking when this was clarified as permissible in writing, and preferably with the issue of some kind of permit.

I would say your case outcome will be greatly  influenced by that mistake.

tboo

• Car 1

Total Amount 4556.34

• Car 2

Total Amount 1289.04

• Car 3

Total Amount 276.48

• Car 4

Total Amount 703.99

• Car 5

Total Amount 477.80

My take - there is £7303.63 in your name only, as the rest are in your mum. dad and step-dad's name.

If you are to deal with them here, then I suggest only the ones in your name. as it will confuse the issue.

and if you want help with the offers will another thread be the way forward? All the same defence etc?

wooderson said:

I would like to sort my Dad's one too just in case he does decide to move back here.

Me
Car 1: issued between 06/02/2019 and 11/02/2020
Car 2: issued 06/11/2018, 21/09/2018, 01/11/2018, 14/11/2018, 16/11/2018, 12/06/2019
Car 3: issued 12/06/2018
Car 4: issued 06/12/2018, 08/12/2018, 04/01/2019
Car 5: issued 06/11/2018, 21/10/2018

Mum
Car 1: issued 17/02/2019, 21/02/2019, 03/03/2019, 06/03/2019, 10/03/2019, 12/03/2019, 21/03/2019, 15/03/2019, 17/03/2019, 07/04/2019, 29/03/2019, 28/04/2019, 21/05/2019, 21/07/2019, 11/02/2020
Car 2: issued 09/05/2019
Car 3: issued 14/09/2018, 29/01/2019, 24/02/2019, 03/03/2019, 17/03/2019, 25/04/2019, 28/04/2019, 21/05/2019

Stepdad
Issued 11/02/2020

Dad
Issued 21/02/2019

hullensien

@wooderson
where is the car park?

wooderson

@hullensien - unfortunately, I would prefer to keep that information private if you don't mind

@Coupon-mad - I just realised that each of these charges have £70 administration fees added...Should this be my defense to have the case struck out instead of going down the route of getting written permission from the commercial units? Because I have a small feeling the units are an unhelpful bunch and might not be willing to "officially get involved"...[continued]

edit: [continued]...which means i would be unable to prove that we had a verbal agreement.