Need Help. Over £12,500!

Terry1931

The OP is quite clearly living in a property, with others, that has access to a Council permit for One Car on the nearby Street.

It is not the Car Park Landowners responsibility to provide Parking for Multi Car households in these flats.

It was evident there was a problem within the issue of the first couple of tickets, yet the OP continued to park and ignore the Parking Charge Notices.

It is cases like this seeking support on this forum that may bring the forum into disrepute by not calling it out earlier. Just as some unscrupulous solicitors will chase any ambulance, there is also equally no need to attempt to defend the ridiculous.

Bargepole is correct, the OP should seek professional legal advice from whomever is willing to take this case on......and Good luck.

NCC1701-A

First post in reply to the OP.  

Coupon-mad said:

Firstly, you must stop parking there as you are clearly not authorised to do so.

Not sure how much earlier it could be "called out".   

patient_dream

Terry1931 said:

The OP is quite clearly living in a property, with others, that has access to a Council permit for One Car on the nearby Street.

It is not the Car Park Landowners responsibility to provide Parking for Multi Car households in these flats.

It was evident there was a problem within the issue of the first couple of tickets, yet the OP continued to park and ignore the Parking Charge Notices.

It is cases like this seeking support on this forum that may bring the forum into disrepute by not calling it out earlier. Just as some unscrupulous solicitors will chase any ambulance, there is also equally no need to attempt to defend the ridiculous.

Bargepole is correct, the OP should seek professional legal advice from whomever is willing to take this case on......and Good luck.

Understand what you are saying but if it is a fact that the unit occupiers have agreed to the parking and will confirm this in writing, which would save them going to court as a witness, a lawyer may not be required.

The OP needs to act quickly before he is gazumped.

Helping someone on the facts known, will not bring this forum into disrepute

The clue to this is what the freeholder said

Coupon-mad

I called it out that if appeared that the parking was unwanted and to stop parking there, in my first reply on this thread (thankyou @NCC1701-A)  so I'm not sure how newbie Terry comes to the conclusion that our advising this OP has brought this forum into disrepute.

Contrary to popular delusion in PPC World, we advise people well and we call out the most selfish parking, as a rule.

Also, the OP has now found a letter that evidences prior authority to park so it's a bit late for a criticising newbie to throw a cat among the pigeons.   Especially after that newbie has shown himself to be a disruptive poster, whose other posts on this forum are a serious cause for alarm because he pushes an idea to PAY PPCs and DCAs an extortionate amount of money. 

Terry1931

The OP actually said....

I've found a letter from a couple of years ago from the Property Management company that confirms that we can park there IF we have prior agreement with from the commercial units; at the time we did indeed have verbal agreement from the 2 commercial units.

Not exactly the same as " a letter of evidence" to park or of prior authority to reasonably park and  rack up multiple parking charge notices and to ignore them 

Where have I shown myself to be disruptive. 
Where have I exhibited serious cause for alarm. 

Coupon Mad , yet again you mis represent what I have said about an alternative approach to seek redress of an incorrect Parking charge and then use that misrepresentation to make incorrect allegations about my contributions to this forum. 

NCC1701-A

Terry1931 said:

The OP actually said....

I've found a letter from a couple of years ago from the Property Management company that confirms that we can park there IF we have prior agreement with from the commercial units; at the time we did indeed have verbal agreement from the 2 commercial units.

Not exactly the same as " a letter of evidence" to park or of prior authority to reasonably park and  rack up multiple parking charge notices and to ignore them 

Where have I shown myself to be disruptive. 
Where have I exhibited serious cause for alarm. 

Coupon Mad , yet again you mis represent what I have said about an alternative approach to seek redress of an incorrect Parking charge and then use that misrepresentation to make incorrect allegations about my contributions to this forum. 

So exactly like prior authority to park.  

And another disruptive and selective post.

Terry1931

NCC1701-A said:

Terry1931 said:

The OP actually said....

I've found a letter from a couple of years ago from the Property Management company that confirms that we can park there IF we have prior agreement with from the commercial units; at the time we did indeed have verbal agreement from the 2 commercial units.

Not exactly the same as " a letter of evidence" to park or of prior authority to reasonably park and  rack up multiple parking charge notices and to ignore them 

Where have I shown myself to be disruptive. 
Where have I exhibited serious cause for alarm. 

Coupon Mad , yet again you mis represent what I have said about an alternative approach to seek redress of an incorrect Parking charge and then use that misrepresentation to make incorrect allegations about my contributions to this forum. 

So exactly like prior authority to park.  

And another disruptive and selective post.

To rack up £12,500 worth of parking charge notices on the basis of a claimed verbal permission sounds like asking for trouble. 

By continued use of the parking and subsequent charge notices without questioning the obviously apparent withdrawal of the unilateral claimed "consent to park" questions the reasonableness of the motorist. 

Bargepole was correct about this post. 

To comment In the above way on this post is not being disruptive. 

Coupon-mad

To rack up £12,500 worth of parking charge notices on the basis of a claimed verbal permission sounds like a PPC typically paying zero regard to the interests of those persons who were (verbally or otherwise) permitted to park.

Fixed the above for you.  Let's see what a Judge says, shall we?

We all know what this forum is about and it's not consumer blame, nor telling people to pay when they honestly believe the PCNs are unfair.  As this poster rightly does believe, given the new evidence.

Jenni_D

Maybe the OP should pay the PCNs and then raise a court claim against the PPC?  

Terry1931

Coupon-mad said:

To rack up £12,500 worth of parking charge notices on the basis of a claimed verbal permission sounds like a PPC typically paying zero regard to the interests of those persons who were (verbally or otherwise) permitted to park.

Fixed the above for you.  Let's see what a Judge says, shall we?

We all know what this forum is about and it's not consumer blame, nor telling people to pay when they honestly believe the PCNs are unfair.  As this poster rightly does believe, given the new evidence.

A judge would say one parking charge notice may be excused, a second should have been questioned, a third fourth, fifth etc is negligence and evasion to an obvious fact that the "verbal" permission to park was not applicable to all the different drivers and different cars. 

Defence of this case beyond Bargepoles conclusion brings this forum into disrepute