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  • Grumpy_chap
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    BOWFER said:
    Mild hybrids are even more cynical and irrelevant than normal hybrids.TadleyBaggie said:
    I understand that PHEV's can be operated without ever plugging in (though that defeats the extra expense somewhat).
    But are very popular as company vehicles due to low taxation.
    And very unpopular with proper electric vehicle owners for their habit of using electric car bays to recharge their pathetic range at their pathetically slow charging rate.
    For example, a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV takes 4 hours at 7KW or 30 mins on a rapid charger, to do a maximum of 29 miles...laughably pathetic
    They're just cynical tax avoidance vehicles, let's be honest.
    So I should steer clear of mhev altogether and seek just petrol/diesel? I certainly wouldn't want a fully electric car. 
    OP - you'll be fine with you choice of car so long as the deal is a good one.  
  • BOWFER
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    edited 13 September 2021 at 2:45PM
    BOWFER said:
    BOWFER said:
    Mild hybrids are even more cynical and irrelevant than normal hybrids.TadleyBaggie said:
    I understand that PHEV's can be operated without ever plugging in (though that defeats the extra expense somewhat).
    But are very popular as company vehicles due to low taxation.
    And very unpopular with proper electric vehicle owners for their habit of using electric car bays to recharge their pathetic range at their pathetically slow charging rate.
    For example, a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV takes 4 hours at 7KW or 30 mins on a rapid charger, to do a maximum of 29 miles...laughably pathetic
    They're just cynical tax avoidance vehicles, let's be honest.
    So I should steer clear of mhev altogether and seek just petrol/diesel? I certainly wouldn't want a fully electric car. 
    In the not so distant future, you won't have any choice if you wish to have a new car.
    Like how distant?
    2030

    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-takes-historic-step-towards-net-zero-with-end-of-sale-of-new-petrol-and-diesel-cars-by-2030
    Hybrid ban from 2035 too, although there's talk of that being brought forward.
    They're already dying a death anyway.
    The ban is only one new cars though right so if you already have a petrol/diesel car they're not making your get rid of it are they? You just can't buy a new one. Not sure if my understanding is correct
    Correct.
    Depending how long you keep cars, who knows what it will be worth in future though.
    There will always be demand for ICE cars from people who (weirdly) refuse to drive an electric car under any circumstance, even if they could easily own one.
    But will that mean values go up, or will it mean you're stuck with it waiting for one of these to come along?
    God knows.
    I suppose the only really future proof advice is, if buying a new ICE car now, be prepared to keep it so long that resale isn't an issue.
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