Can a potential cloakroom (no water pipe) turn into a toilet/loo?

aoleks

Section62 said:

aoleks said:

Even without the bathroom directly above, it’s easy to get the required plumbing in place. People overestimate the complexity of adding a new pipe somewhere.

Not always. It varies from property to property, and what kind of job you are happy with.  If pipes being run across the kitchen ceiling or walls are Ok then it is a lot easier than doing what most people want and finding a way to conceal them.

And for the OP there will be two pipes, one of which ideally needs insulating to stop heat-loss, and having exposed insulated pipes just looks daft.

Also, the water supply is the easy bit, because water under pressure will flow 'uphill'.  Getting the drainage side of the plumbing sorted is usually the bigger challenge.

If anything, people usually underestimate the complexity.  Especially when you add fitted carpets and tiled/laminate floors into the equation.

Not trying to be rude or anything, but I guess it depends what you define as a complexity. I’m not a builder but I’ve laid laminate flooring many times and it’s still perfect after 10+ years. The cost of a new carpet or laminate floor is close to nothing.

Remove floor boards, place/connect pipe, replace boards and put
your floor back in place, be that carpet or laminate. 1 days work for a decent builder.

Again, it doesn’t have to be expensive at all, pretty simple job regardless of house.

Section62

aoleks said:

Not trying to be rude or anything, but I guess it depends what you define as a complexity. I’m not a builder but I’ve laid laminate flooring many times and it’s still perfect after 10+ years. The cost of a new carpet or laminate floor is close to nothing.

Remove floor boards, place/connect pipe, replace boards and put
your floor back in place, be that carpet or laminate. 1 days work for a decent builder.

Again, it doesn’t have to be expensive at all, pretty simple job regardless of house.

So you're talking about working on your own house or friends/family?

Try doing that job as a professional, where the client will complain that the laminate has been scratched, or the edges of the carpet haven't gone down quite right.  Also you didn't account for tiling - how do you replace that tile that got broken, and is the client going to complain about that tiny crack you made when drilling a hole?

The cost of a new carpet or laminate floor might be "close to nothing" if you are happy with cheap carpet or laminate, but not everyone is.

I don't think you were being rude... but possibly underestimating the complexity of some jobs based only on your own experience, perhaps?

P.s. In your task list you forgot to test that new pipe before putting everything back.... let's hope there's no leaks. 

aoleks

My opinion is based on a very recent similar case of a friend who had this done by professional builders. It was done in no time and at a very reasonable cost, considering the pipe needed routing through the house as there was nothing nearby to connect it too.

The most difficult bit was ordering the toilet flush mechanism, nothing is available these days…

Section62

aoleks said:

My opinion is based on a very recent similar case of a friend who had this done by professional builders. It was done in no time and at a very reasonable cost, considering the pipe needed routing through the house as there was nothing nearby to connect it too.

Sure, sometimes it is easy.  But one example doesn't mean it is "easy to get the required plumbing in place" in all cases.

Without knowing a lot more about the details in the OP's case, they need balanced opinions in the range of 'easy' through to 'very difficult'.