Secure parking Solutions (Foundry Gym Dudley)

KeithP

Sankai said:

Anyway I have my POPLA number, do I need to write them now, or I need to sit and wait the invitation to the Court first?

Definitely do not wait for anything. You have just over thirty days to file a PoPLA appeal.

You need to create a PoPLA appeal following the guidance in the third post of the NEWBIES thread.

Coupon-mad

If it was a windscreen PCN it’s a shame that you didn’t follow the Newbies thread advice about when to appeal, so as to time them out to send a NTK.  

The newbies thread explains why we suggest a delaying tactic. Oh well, you will just have to hope they don’t send a Notice to Keeper, unless they did already.

And please, please make a difference and do the Government Consultation before it closes on Friday morning.  

The MHCLG are asking the public about the level of parking charges and the fact PPCs add fake costs. I imagine you will have an opinion about that... 

Also see the Group Claim thread if your PCN was since December 2018.  A solicitor is looking to represent victims on a no win no fee basis v the DVLA for alleged DPA 2018 data breach. 

Both are threads on page 1 or 2 right now, both in your interests to do this week!

Sankai

No, there was no windscreen ticket left, they just sent us 2 letters one after another. I'll look into the treads tomorrow, thank you for mentioning it. I'm just reading Popla appeals and trying to find the the one who will suit to my case the most.

Coupon-mad

Depends if the two NTKs were POFA worded or not, as the Newbies thread first post explains.

Sankai

Coupon-mad said:

Depends if the two NTKs were POFA worded or not, as the Newbies thread first post explains.

So the nursery now is open again and they managed to clarify the situation. Parking Solutions are managing all the car park, usually. But when the nursery is open their parking slots are managed by Elite Solutions, and so the parents have little permission cards. The fine was received, when nursery was closed for summer holidays, so it was managed by Parking Solutions, and the manager can't force them to eliminate the fine, as the nursery don't have the contract with them. But then the landlord doesn't issue any parking permits at all.

I need to submit my letter to Popla till 20th of September. Any ideas how should I use this information?
By the way, the parking is free 24/7, and there are no limits how long cars can be parked.

Coupon-mad

Are there really two lots of conflicting contractual signs from 2 PPCs?  That will be great photo evidence for POPLA to show confusion and ambiguity.

Sankai

Yes there are, like 2 from Parking solutions on one wall and the board informing you will get a parking fine from elite management if parking with no permission on another. The thing that confuses me, how Parking solutions can issue the fine if acctual contract and valid permissions are in between elite and nursery. And when nursery is closed there are no permits to park, as the land owner don't issue them even if it's stated differently on T&C board, not for nursery, nor for bike shop nor for gym members. And these 3 business owners have no contract with land owner or Parking Solutions themselves. 

Coupon-mad

Show us plenty of pics of the signs.  

For POPLA, embed the time and data of each image into the photos.

Sankai

Coupon-mad said:

Show us plenty of pics of the signs.  

For POPLA, embed the time and data of each image into the photos.

Fresh signs:

This is the entrance into the car park. There is no main big sign with terms and conditions, only their standard template board on a right hand side, and it's unclear if the board is for small additional Yamaha car park of for main used by 3 companies.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wjixEWIF_pm44B-rG1UW4_pCCwUnwTOm/view?usp=sharing
The text size on the board.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wk_THUxFyTcOs99XKuOKiPLEh2TPZ1fE/view?usp=sharing
The view (blue crosses Secure parking), (orange Elite parking managment):
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wkMshjnGy4CbHUx50MLpH8LCyDYiRLv_/view?usp=sharing
Terms and conditions board:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1x2bA1pVj_Nkl9UnnVXqsnutB8ZORGugZ/view?usp=sharing
Foundry Gym informing about the fine from Elite. But there is no Elite T&c board. They only operate  school term time, and when nursery is closed the manager needs to call Solutions, so they take over. But there is no contract between them:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qjTjNlft2iZiXxwpjYM2Bm1he21-2SBC/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wtXYIlviIEMLGtX0LlKJ8NIB8mTwiTmn/view?usp=sharing
There is no contract in between Foundry Gym, Yamaha or Little Kids Kingdom nursery and the land owner. There are no pre-authorised vehicles, nor permissions that the land owner issues. My great confusion is, why the keeper received one fine for parking without permit on a nursery space, if there is no permits issued as no contract made, and why keeper received a second parking fine for parking on yellow lines, but not because he haven't displayed the permission, that the landowner doesn't issue =D I hope it's clear, as my native language is not english.

To add the car was observed parked for less than 3min for a first fine, and 5.10min for the second.

Coupon-mad

Ok sounds like you can put together a good POPLA appeal by using the templates in the 3rd post of the NEWBIES thread, and embed your pictures with the date embedded, showing the photos within the POPLA appeal like a story book. 

Not links, not for POPLA.