2nd hand Land Rover Discovery sports

littlestrawberry

I am looking for a 2nd hand 7 seater SUV that's ULEZ compliant. Land Rover Discovery sports kept coming up on my search through various website, a 5 year old Land Rover cost around 20k. I don't really know much about cars but I thought Land Rover is supposed to be quiet expensive? Even a 2nd hand Toyota or Hyundai SUV cost about the same? Is there a reason why 2nd hand Land Rover Discovery sports going so 'cheap?' Is it worth buying a 2nd hand one? 
A quick google search tells me the quality of Land Rover is not great, 137 faults per 100 cars, is it true? 

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I wouldn’t touch one with a barge pole. It’s obvious why they’re cheap…

Ectophile

Land Rovers may be expensive to buy new, but holding on to one once the warranty expires can also be expensive.  If you know a local independent Land Rover specialist, it might be worth asking them if there are any particular models to buy or avoid.

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ex-pat_scot

I've recently sold mine.
I've had LandRovers for best part of 35 years.
I had a previous Discovery 3 from new for 225,000 miles - cost a lot to run bit a great family car.
We replaced it with a 65 plate Discovery Sport HSE, which we have / had for 4 years.
We do high miles - it's our only car - used daily for various childrens activities.

For practicality, it's great. It is still a good size, even if the rear 2 seats are now too small for my 5'2 teenager for long journeys. For primary age children then they are OK.

I had a problem with the steering column bolts, which has cost £3,000 (and which I am still disputing with JLR). This is a fundamental safety issue and not (yet) the subject of a full recall.
I've also had a few problems with sensors - AdBlue, coolant etc - that are just electrical and cost a few £100s to fix each time.
I had a problem with the EGR failing - another common issue - £3,000 odd to fix.
The DPF was also getting near to when it needed fixing. It would cost another £3000 odd apparently.

As I understand it from my local independent LR specialist, these problems are common to this engine, which is also the same one (diesel) used on current Defender, D Sport, Discovery and some of the Range Rovers.
I don't want to buy a new / newer car and have the same fundamental weaknesses, issues and costs.

It's a shame, but I'm moving away from JLR. Probably to a full EV, which have none of the emissions gubbins and engine complexity.

(Your Mileage may vary. Literally and metaphorically)

BOWFER

ex-pat_scot said:

I've recently sold mine.
I've had LandRovers for best part of 35 years.
I had a previous Discovery 3 from new for 225,000 miles - cost a lot to run bit a great family car.
We replaced it with a 65 plate Discovery Sport HSE, which we have / had for 4 years.
We do high miles - it's our only car - used daily for various childrens activities.

For practicality, it's great. It is still a good size, even if the rear 2 seats are now too small for my 5'2 teenager for long journeys. For primary age children then they are OK.

I had a problem with the steering column bolts, which has cost £3,000 (and which I am still disputing with JLR). This is a fundamental safety issue and not (yet) the subject of a full recall.
I've also had a few problems with sensors - AdBlue, coolant etc - that are just electrical and cost a few £100s to fix each time.
I had a problem with the EGR failing - another common issue - £3,000 odd to fix.
The DPF was also getting near to when it needed fixing. It would cost another £3000 odd apparently.

As I understand it from my local independent LR specialist, these problems are common to this engine, which is also the same one (diesel) used on current Defender, D Sport, Discovery and some of the Range Rovers.
I don't want to buy a new / newer car and have the same fundamental weaknesses, issues and costs.

It's a shame, but I'm moving away from JLR. Probably to a full EV, which have none of the emissions gubbins and engine complexity.

(Your Mileage may vary. Literally and metaphorically)

I'd love to know how they justify £3000 for an EGR and same for a DPF.
A whole new EGR is £300, then you've just some fitting.
DPF's can also be cleaned out, or a whole new one is between £500 and £800 depending on year and engine.

BOWFER

Our Evoque started out problematic from new, but I think it was just bad luck/timing.
They came out with a software update to stop the DPF warning light coming on prematurely, but you had to get this update done before the light came on.
Unfortunately for us, the light came on first, so the software update didn't work and then came week after week of arguing with JLR that a whole new DPF was needed.
They eventually relented and it's been fine since (furiously touching wood).
They also gave us compensation for the weeks of hassle (and were willing to replace the whole car, but we agreed to keep it).
We did have a spurious front radar warning came up the other day, no heavy rain or anything blocking the camera.
And the infotainment is a pain, the DAB radio often repeating lines of songs.

As @ex-pat_scot has said, we probably won't be bothering with another Land Rover, my wife's dream car has turned into something that gives her stress.
We'll be going electric next as well (I'm already in an EV).
It'll be an ID4 or the new Nissan Ariya.

lordmountararat

My sister has had no end of trouble with her 2013 Discovery.

oh_really

There you have it op, you still want one?

BOWFER

It's a shame, as the Disco Sport we had for weeks on loan while the Evoque issue was being sorted was lovely to drive.
But would I have a Land Rover car out of warranty?
Oooooft, I really don't think so.

ex-pat_scot

BOWFER said:

ex-pat_scot said:

I've recently sold mine.
I've had LandRovers for best part of 35 years.
I had a previous Discovery 3 from new for 225,000 miles - cost a lot to run bit a great family car.
We replaced it with a 65 plate Discovery Sport HSE, which we have / had for 4 years.
We do high miles - it's our only car - used daily for various childrens activities.

For practicality, it's great. It is still a good size, even if the rear 2 seats are now too small for my 5'2 teenager for long journeys. For primary age children then they are OK.

I had a problem with the steering column bolts, which has cost £3,000 (and which I am still disputing with JLR). This is a fundamental safety issue and not (yet) the subject of a full recall.
I've also had a few problems with sensors - AdBlue, coolant etc - that are just electrical and cost a few £100s to fix each time.
I had a problem with the EGR failing - another common issue - £3,000 odd to fix.
The DPF was also getting near to when it needed fixing. It would cost another £3000 odd apparently.

As I understand it from my local independent LR specialist, these problems are common to this engine, which is also the same one (diesel) used on current Defender, D Sport, Discovery and some of the Range Rovers.
I don't want to buy a new / newer car and have the same fundamental weaknesses, issues and costs.

It's a shame, but I'm moving away from JLR. Probably to a full EV, which have none of the emissions gubbins and engine complexity.

(Your Mileage may vary. Literally and metaphorically)

I'd love to know how they justify £3000 for an EGR and same for a DPF.
A whole new EGR is £300, then you've just some fitting.
DPF's can also be cleaned out, or a whole new one is between £500 and £800 depending on year and engine.

was the quote from the trusted independent LR specialist.
It's not the part, but the poor design whereby the whole body needs lifting off and engine removing to get to the simple filter / DPF etc.

(89) Discovery Sport EGR Valve Gasket Problems - Land Rover Dealer Fix (83) - YouTube has a similar tale of woe.

My previous 05 Discovery 3 was able to be blanked off for the EGR to avoid a £1000+ fix (apparently...) but later models would catch this in the software / monitoring.

The D3 had various issues over the years with EGR, turbo, air suspension, elextronic handbrake, many many suspension bushes (v heavy car), locking, brake discs, tyres galore, window relay, radio, aircon.