Who gets the grant

kenny1969

Hi

I'd like to know when an application is done for a new heating system , is the grant awarded to the individual or is on the property or landlord..
I ask as my landlord told me someone was coming to survey the property and then when I came I had to sign loads of papers and show my bank details and Identity , now when the landlord sent the surveyor I wasn't aware that I was going to have to sign for this application that I didn't want or ask for ..now I'm being told by the landlord I have to let workman into to do a central heating system..firstly who are these people actually working for , me or the landlord ?
Secondly I told them I prefer storage heaters but I'm being told I can't have them even tho the property already has them installed...thanks for any info

[Deleted User]

In a rental situation, the landlord is responsible for maintaining and upgrading a heating system. However, to get a grant towards a new boiler, the Landlord needs to work in partnership with his/her tenant

Free boilers for landlords. 

Rental properties could get a highly efficient, brand new gas boiler if the tenants of a property meet certain criteria, under the Energy Company Obligation (ECO) Scheme. The government ECO Scheme can help those families on low income and those who are receiving benefits to reduce energy bills. If these families fit the below criteria, they could get a free grant towards a new energy efficient boiler:

• You’ll need to receive some sort of benefit, such as Child Tax Credit or Income Support. You may also need to have a certain amount of household income. 
• If the current boiler is broken, you can apply for a boiler grant to go towards the installation of a brand new A rated boiler by a Gas Safe engineer. 

You also need to live in England, Scotland, or Wales to be eligible for the ECO boiler scheme.  (Credit: BOXT)

You undoubtedly have the right to refuse to sign any paperwork put in front of you. However, you might find yourself in a tricky situation. Firstly, you are missing out on the benefits of getting a new boiler. Secondly, your Landlord might refuse to fix a future boiler fault on the basis that you refused to accept a new boiler when it was offered.

Finally, your heating preferences really don't come into the equation. Your Landlord is required to provide you with heating: nowhere in the legislation does it say that the tenant can decide whether it should be electric; gas; a heat pump or whatever. My advice, FWiW, work with your Landlord

Reed_Richards

kenny1969 said:

...Secondly I told them I prefer storage heaters but I'm being told I can't have them even tho the property already has them installed...thanks for any info

A gas boiler is very much cheaper to run than storage heaters.  

Gerry1

kenny1969 said:

Secondly I told them I prefer storage heaters

If you are being offered a gas central heating system at no cost to yourself it would be foolish to reject it.  It will be much cheaper to run than storage heaters, and presumably you're the one who has to pay the energy bills.

kenny1969

I don't actually consider it cheaper when someone is in the house during the day and the heating needs to be running all day and night during the winter , it's fine if the house is empty during the day , that's why I prefer storage heaters , the house stays warm all day without burning extra fuel , I also don't want an extra standing charge bill that falls into me to pay.

kenny1969

[Deleted User] said:

In a rental situation, the landlord is responsible for maintaining and upgrading a heating system. However, to get a grant towards a new boiler, the Landlord needs to work in partnership with his/her tenant

Free boilers for landlords. 

Rental properties could get a highly efficient, brand new gas boiler if the tenants of a property meet certain criteria, under the Energy Company Obligation (ECO) Scheme. The government ECO Scheme can help those families on low income and those who are receiving benefits to reduce energy bills. If these families fit the below criteria, they could get a free grant towards a new energy efficient boiler:

• You’ll need to receive some sort of benefit, such as Child Tax Credit or Income Support. You may also need to have a certain amount of household income. 
• If the current boiler is broken, you can apply for a boiler grant to go towards the installation of a brand new A rated boiler by a Gas Safe engineer. 

You also need to live in England, Scotland, or Wales to be eligible for the ECO boiler scheme.  (Credit: BOXT)

You undoubtedly have the right to refuse to sign any paperwork put in front of you. However, you might find yourself in a tricky situation. Firstly, you are missing out on the benefits of getting a new boiler. Secondly, your Landlord might refuse to fix a future boiler fault on the basis that you refused to accept a new boiler when it was offered.

Finally, your heating preferences really don't come into the equation. Your Landlord is required to provide you with heating: nowhere in the legislation does it say that the tenant can decide whether it should be electric; gas; a heat pump or whatever. My advice, FWiW, work with your Landlord

I appreciate what your saying , but surely it's not the landlords place to instigate this and expect me to sign and apply for this...
Isn't the grant based on the individuals circumstances , not the landlords..
And I prefer storage heating as the house is occupied during the day and gas means burning the system day and night during the winter , which based on my previous address didn't work out cheaper..thanks 

kenny1969

Also so far the work has been appalling that they have done , so now obviously I have to deal with this , and they are in no rush to come back and rectify the shambles they caused , 
They have so far only fitted 2 fans and loft insulation..the one fan doesn't work and the other one was left unconnected and they cut thru my cables in the wall without even telling me and left..and no have no power to my washing machine..

[Deleted User]

kenny1969 said:

Also so far the work has been appalling that they have done , so now obviously I have to deal with this , and they are in no rush to come back and rectify the shambles they caused , 
They have so far only fitted 2 fans and loft insulation..the one fan doesn't work and the other one was left unconnected and they cut thru my cables in the wall without even telling me and left..and no have no power to my washing machine..

Now you have lost me. Are you saying that all the paperwork has been signed and the work is ongoing? If so, the good ship ‘Decision’ has sailed.

One of the reasons that the Eco Scheme has been set up the way that it has is because of the number of people of limited means that have no option but to live in rented accommodation. A new energy-efficient boiler provides the tenant with savings but, quite rightly, the Government needs to check that the tenant isn’t quietly sitting on a fortune in the Bank. The grant goes to the installation company with the Landlord paying for all extras. As far as I know, there is no grant for storage heaters.

maisie_cat

kenny1969 said:

[Deleted User] said:

In a rental situation, the landlord is responsible for maintaining and upgrading a heating system. However, to get a grant towards a new boiler, the Landlord needs to work in partnership with his/her tenant

Free boilers for landlords. 

Rental properties could get a highly efficient, brand new gas boiler if the tenants of a property meet certain criteria, under the Energy Company Obligation (ECO) Scheme. The government ECO Scheme can help those families on low income and those who are receiving benefits to reduce energy bills. If these families fit the below criteria, they could get a free grant towards a new energy efficient boiler:

• You’ll need to receive some sort of benefit, such as Child Tax Credit or Income Support. You may also need to have a certain amount of household income. 
• If the current boiler is broken, you can apply for a boiler grant to go towards the installation of a brand new A rated boiler by a Gas Safe engineer. 

You also need to live in England, Scotland, or Wales to be eligible for the ECO boiler scheme.  (Credit: BOXT)

You undoubtedly have the right to refuse to sign any paperwork put in front of you. However, you might find yourself in a tricky situation. Firstly, you are missing out on the benefits of getting a new boiler. Secondly, your Landlord might refuse to fix a future boiler fault on the basis that you refused to accept a new boiler when it was offered.

Finally, your heating preferences really don't come into the equation. Your Landlord is required to provide you with heating: nowhere in the legislation does it say that the tenant can decide whether it should be electric; gas; a heat pump or whatever. My advice, FWiW, work with your Landlord

I appreciate what your saying , but surely it's not the landlords place to instigate this and expect me to sign and apply for this...
Isn't the grant based on the individuals circumstances , not the landlords..
And I prefer storage heating as the house is occupied during the day and gas means burning the system day and night during the winter , which based on my previous address didn't work out cheaper..thanks 

We moved from a gas centrally heated house to a smaller house with storage heaters and it was more expensive. It cost us £2 day just for 2 of the 4 storage heaters to be on and once we turned them off our electric bill fell by 63%. 
Landlords get help based on the tenant's circumstances, but it's the landlord who owns the property and get to decide what heating system he chooses with or without Government help.

Gerry1

kenny1969 said:

 that's why I prefer storage heaters , the house stays warm all day without burning extra fuel

Faulty logic.  The heat needed during the day isn't free, it doesn't fall out of the sky, it's been supplied and paid for during the overnight charging period.  If you turn the output down during the day it won't use so much electricity to top up the next night.  You're not getting something for nothing, all the heat used in the daytime must be paid for.

And those electric kiloWatt hours cost far more than gas ones.  How much are you paying on your E7 cheap rate, probably at least 8p - 10p / kWh, perhaps even as much as 14p/kWh or more?  With gas it should be less than 4p/kWh.  That's a no-brainer.

Just do the sums.