UC Housing payment less than LHA

scoobiemandan

poppy12345 said:

Then her Support Group award should be honoured in UC and she should be recieving the LCWRA element from the start of her claim, although it can take a while for them to add it onto your maximum entitlement.

Was the ESA part Contributions based? If so then this part (£114.10 per week) will continue and be deducted in full from your maximum UC entitlement.

Everything else is correct with the claim, we are receiving the right elements etc; Personal, housing, child (with disability element) and the LCWRA.  It's just the housing element that doesn't 'add up'

poppy12345

Then leave a message on your journal under the payments section, as advised.

scoobiemandan

I have done.  Just wondered whether there was something basic I was missing!

Thanks for your time.

Alice_Holt

scoobiemandan said:

poppy12345 said:

scoobiemandan said:

On a side note, they've also asked for my wife to provide previous earnings figures even though she's not worked since 2012 due to her disability, which is apparent in the original claim and that which they would know based on her DWP record of PIP and ESA!?

That will be to do with the 9 month grace period for the benefit cap (which doesn't apply to you anyway because she's claiming PIP)

Was she claiming ESA before you applied for UC? If so which group was she in?

Yes she's been claiming the retrospective disability benefits for years.  She's in the support group for ESA.

      If she was in the ESA Support Group then she should be placed in the LCWRA group of UC without having either an assessment or the normal 3 month wait applied:
       https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Universal_Credit_Work_Capability_Assessment
      https://www.turn2us.org.uk/Benefit-guides/Universal-Credit/Additional-Elements-of-Universal-Credit

   You will need to chase this up with UC, and may need to provide proof of ESA SG, as UC and ESA systems don't automatically link. Manual intervention by a DWP employee is needed, I believe.

calcotti

Alice_Holt said: If she was in the ESA Support Group then she should be placed in the LCWRA group of UC without having either an assessment or the normal 3 month wait applied

OP does say this is already included.

scoobiemandan said:Everything else is correct with the claim, we are receiving the right elements etc; Personal, housing, child (with disability element) and the LCWRA.  It's just the housing element that doesn't 'add up'

May have cross posted.

calcotti

To be clear - the applicable LHA rate is the three bedroom rate. The applicable rate is determined by the occupancy, not the actual number of bedrooms.

scoobiemandan

calcotti said:

To be clear - the applicable LHA rate is the three bedroom rate. The applicable rate is determined by the occupancy, not the actual number of bedrooms.

Yup, I get that and we are entitled to the three bedroom rate which is circa £713 but they are only paying £650

Nannytone

Could it be that they are wrongly making a non-dependant deduction?

Spoonie_Turtle

Does it not say in your statement what they've based the housing element on?  You should get a statement before you're even paid.  It should also show any deductions they may be (rightly or wrongly) making.

scoobiemandan

Nannytone said:

Could it be that they are wrongly making a non-dependant deduction?

The math doesn't work for that as I believe the non-dependant deduction is around £75 which would mean we would be seeing even less.

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Does it not say in your statement what they've based the housing element on?  You should get a statement before you're even paid.  It should also show any deductions they may be (rightly or wrongly) making.

The statement shows the deduction from full entitlement for the ESA my wife gets but nothing else!  The housing section merely states we cannot pay the full amount as the full amount cannot be more than your local housing allowance!