Sister has put in a caveat

Robert_McGeddon

Keep_pedalling said:

Robert_McGeddon said:

Do you know on what grounds your sister has caused a caveat to have been entered?

You don’t have to provide grounds to enter a caveat. 

For "grounds" perhaps read "reason." It was a practical comment, not a legal one.  If there was no reason the the sister wouln't have entered the caveat. If you don't know the why then suggesting a solution is rather tricky.

Following BooJewels helpful link to the parallel thread the OP said ".... In the meantime she has become very angry saying she does not trust them and if she is not in control she will place a caveat in place."  Which, if taken at face value, is not a proper reason to put in a caveat.

Shezzy1

Pennylane said:

???????? Waiting for update

Police have said it’s a civil matter and to see a solicitor. We have an appointment with a solicitor on Monday to arrange a warning off and he will be writing  asking for the jewellery to be returned to the property as probate has not been granted therefore the act is considered theft. 

This can not be settled amicably as they will not talk to us or answer any calls. We cannot visit as sister has said she will call the police on an harassment charge.  

Shezzy1

Robert_McGeddon said:

Keep_pedalling said:

Robert_McGeddon said:

Do you know on what grounds your sister has caused a caveat to have been entered?

You don’t have to provide grounds to enter a caveat. 

For "grounds" perhaps read "reason." It was a practical comment, not a legal one.  If there was no reason the the sister wouln't have entered the caveat. If you don't know the why then suggesting a solution is rather tricky.

Following BooJewels helpful link to the parallel thread the OP said ".... In the meantime she has become very angry saying she does not trust them and if she is not in control she will place a caveat in place."  Which, if taken at face value, is not a proper reason to put in a caveat.

There is simply no reason for a caveat we have a valid will with named executors and mom was fully mentally alert. I truly believe she wants complete control so she would take all the money and we couldn’t do a thing about it. 

She has already been to the bank,  got statements for all the accounts, tried to put them in her name but the bank needed grant of probate it was only then she fell flat. She arranged the funeral behind our backs with no contribution from the rest of the family. She is very manipulative and very clever. She would take everything and not give a dam. We have spoken to the police about a number of issues now and they don’t want to know. ‘It’s a civil matter’ so unless you have an endless pot of money how are you supposed to fight this in the court. Thank god we are executors at least we have control. 

Shezzy1

BooJewels said:

Is it your sister, or sister-in-law?  It appears that the OP has both an evil sister and an evil sister-in-law - both invoking caveats and both mother and mother in law dying in quick succession.  My sympathies for your significant misfortune: 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6266698/suspicious-sister/p1

Sorry for the confusion this is my partners forum but I (brother and executor) am writing this myself where previously my partner was asking the question. So yes, she is my sister and my mother passed in March. Thank for the advice. 

BooJewels

@Shezzy1 - I would recommend being very careful in your posting and use of your partner's log in details - all it does is cause confusion and you're less likely to get useful help if people think there is something amiss in your posting history, with inconsistencies. 

It jumped out at me because both threads referred to the lady in question as "mom" - which in England would be a less familiar way to refer to a mother, so made it noteworthy.

poppystar

I can see that the sister problem is a distraction but what have you done so far? If you approached the banks/building societies in your role as Executor you could already have made a start. Most will release money without probate if it is under a certain amount. Is it that you don’t know where the accounts are? Have you got a valuation on the house yet? Can you get a valuation on the jewellery/ valuables. There is actually quite a bit you can do before probate is granted. This might also send your sister the message that you are taking charge now. 

Mojisola

BooJewels said:

It jumped out at me because both threads referred to the lady in question as "mom" - which in England would be a less familiar way to refer to a mother, so made it noteworthy.

Lots of people from around Birmingham call their mothers "Mom".

thegreenone

Unless your mom has more than 50k in her bank accounts, these accounts should be closed and the money with you, by now.  How has your sister managed to ask for statements without a death certificate. 

Did she pay for the funeral?  Is she expecting the estate to pay her back?

Marcon

Shezzy1 said:

Pennylane said:

???????? Waiting for update

This can not be settled amicably as they will not talk to us or answer any calls. We cannot visit as sister has said she will call the police on an harassment charge.  

A silly threat you can safely ignore - don't let yourself be bullied.

Shezzy1

thegreenone said:

Unless your mom has more than 50k in her bank accounts, these accounts should be closed and the money with you, by now.  How has your sister managed to ask for statements without a death certificate. 

Did she pay for the funeral?  Is she expecting the estate to pay her back?

Mom paid for the funeral with a funeral plan. The estate is in excess of 150k so probate is needed. My sister went to moms home after the funeral and took everything - the will, bank books, pensions the lot! It wasn’t until she started probate that they pulled her up and told her she could not legally do probate as she wasn’t executor that’s when we were handed the stuff and the things started to get nasty.