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Stuck on an economy 7 meter

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This post is going to make me sound like a total twonk but I'd really appreciate any insights anyone who has had experience of this kind of thing.  Sorry it's a long story but I don't want to leave anything important out.

I bought a new flat and moved in just 3 weeks before the first lockdown.  I'd totally gutted and remodeled the flat, with the help of builders, I'm a 60+ disabled person and when I moved in there was still work to do that was delayed by Covid, this took most of my energy.

When i moved in, I didn't know who the electricity supplier was and it took me a while to sort it out.  Whilst lockdown was in place, I found that I couldn't get a swap as my credit meter was listed as a pay as you go meter.  I didn't have a key so I kept on paying the monthly direct debits.

It was only when I tried to swap from the original supplier as they just didn't do anything and long phone calls had not moved the situation on that I finally got a swap by the look after my bills people.  It was then that I found out that I'm on an economy 7 meter.  As I don't have any night storage heaters this seems rather odd but it seems to be what I've inherited.

The problem is that I've been asking to be moved onto a single rate tariff but they just keep saying that I have to wait till they can put a smart meter in and they have a long backlog and they don't know when it will be.  In the meantime, I'm paying more for my electricity than I need to.  This is great for the energy co but not so great for me.

Does anyone have any insight or knowledge that may help me to speed up the process of getting to a single meter?

Thanks for bearing with me.

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  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,255 Forumite
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    You can definitely be on a single rate with an E7 meter, we regularly get people here saying that they are and want to swap to E7 instead!
    Have you tried switching supplier? Give one or both of these sites a go:
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
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    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,255 Forumite
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    PS this is the "LPG and other fuels" section, electricity gets discussed more here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/energy

    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 34 MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • dunstonh
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     It was then that I found out that I'm on an economy 7 meter.  As I don't have any night storage heaters this seems rather odd but it seems to be what I've inherited.
    It's not a problem.  You can be on a single price tariff with an E7 meter.

    The problem is that I've been asking to be moved onto a single rate tariff but they just keep saying that I have to wait till they can put a smart meter in
    That is not required.   I wonder if they are trying to bump you into a smart meter.

    If it's a digital meter (which it sounds like it would be if you only recently moved to it), then tell your supplier which tariff you want.  If they refuse then go elsewhere.   The only thing you do with an e7 meter on a single charge tariff is that you have to give both readings.   However, the supplier applies the same rate to both readings.   Easy.



    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • moneypenny2k
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    QrizB said:
    PS this is the "LPG and other fuels" section, electricity gets discussed more here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/categories/energy

    Thanks, appreciate it. Can I blame cabin fever after having isolated for 8 days despite being double jabbed?  Yep part of the pingdemic

  • J_B
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    QrizB said:
    You can definitely be on a single rate with an E7 meter,.............

    dunstonh said:
    It's not a problem.  You can be on a single price tariff with an E7 meter.

    Many years ago, we had an E7 meter. It was a digital one that scrolled round Day/Night/Total
    I suggested to the company that I merely use the 'total' reading, but they said that was not possible and sent someone out to replace it with one of the 'old fashioned' spinning wheel types, which we still have today!
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,688 Forumite
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    Many years ago, we had an E7 meter. It was a digital one that scrolled round Day/Night/Total
    I suggested to the company that I merely use the 'total' reading, but they said that was not possible and sent someone out to replace it with one of the 'old fashioned' spinning wheel types, which we still have today!
    It is correct that you cannot use the total reading.   However, it works fine if you use the Day & Night readings in their respective boxes and the supplier applies the same rate to both.      It wasn't necessary to replace the digital meter.

    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • J_B
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    dunstonh said:
    It is correct that you cannot use the total reading.   However, it works fine if you use the Day & Night readings in their respective boxes and the supplier applies the same rate to both.      It wasn't necessary to replace the digital meter.


    Sadly, my supplier of the time didn't agree with you, so, a new meter it was!  🤷‍♂️
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,688 Forumite
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    J_B said:
    dunstonh said:
    It is correct that you cannot use the total reading.   However, it works fine if you use the Day & Night readings in their respective boxes and the supplier applies the same rate to both.      It wasn't necessary to replace the digital meter.


    Sadly, my supplier of the time didn't agree with you, so, a new meter it was!  🤷‍♂️
    Ours had no issue and nor did the other suppliers used in the past.    Such as waste of resources to put you on a different meter like that when it wasn't necessary.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
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