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How unusual to own three boundaries is it?

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  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 10,261 Forumite
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    They said it's not unusual (bit like Tom Jones 😂)
    I can't believe this though...thing is we have never seen this wall why would we have so we have no idea of it's condition, maybe that's why she selling that it's falling down!!

    The details aren't clear (photos are going to help), but in principle it isn't unusual.  Normally there's at least one or two properties per street that will be responsible for 3 boundaries.  Sometimes the ones at the end, but not always - any one of the properties could be responsible for the 'extra' boundary.

    It will probably help people to understand better if you can confirm that the "joint centre fence" is the boundary along the rear - the one between her property and the properties behind (backing onto) hers.

    It also sounds like there might be (wooden?) fences put up in addition to the stone walls.  In which case these fences don't necessarily mark the boundary.  For example if a stone wall is in poor repair someone might have put a wooden panel fence up in front of it (e.g. to stop dogs or children escaping)... but that doesn't change the boundary, or ownership/responsibility for the wall.

  • Tiglet2
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    Not unusual.  I am responsible for 3 fences, the one on the right, the back fence and the one on the left.  This is because, years ago, my house was on the end and there were no houses at the rear.  There is now another house next to me and at the rear, but ownership of the fences remained the same.  I look at it as a positive - I can choose what kind of fence I want and when to change it.

    I imagine the vendor has indicated ownership of all fences on the Property Information Form.  Not all deeds have T marks.
  • UnderOffer
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    Why can’t you see the left hand boundary wall? Is it covered by trees/bush?
  • Does this help at all? Daughters house is the one on the right.


  • I imagine the vendor has indicated ownership of all fences on the Property Information Form.  Not all deeds have T marks.
    No not at all, I'm fact this was a sham it was said dpc docs to follow only to find out in fact that was a mistake there is no dpc.
  • jimbog
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    edited 25 July 2021 at 10:04AM
    Could you quote the wording that references the boundaries? 
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  • goodwithsaving
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    I'm not entirely sure why you  she (given it is her purchase) would pull out having been made aware of a boundary. I am end of terrace so have 3 boundaries to maintain (which is no issue). Is it mid terrace?
  • jimbog said:
    Could you quote the wording that references the boundaries? 
    Good question we have asked the solicitor because the copy that accompanies this has part of the wording missing off the copy so you can't read in it's entirety!
  • I'm not entirely sure why you  she (given it is her purchase) would pull out having been made aware of a boundary. I am end of terrace so have 3 boundaries to maintain (which is no issue). Is it mid terrace?
    Let's just say I was badly stung for thousands years ago so I'm wary. These are long drystone walls which are specialist repair and would be expensive. I don't want this for her neither does she.
    Also we were not aware until now of this responsibility so have not seen the other side of the garden.
  • sevenhills
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    Ramouth said:
    It’s not unusual to own 3 boundaries.  It is unusual to own a boundary that is not to your property.  I would suggest that this needs to be checked with solicitor with a marked plan to be sure that what you believe to have been told is correct.

    A boundary is just that, the point between adjoining land, you cannot own the boundary, its a matter of who built the wall, it may then could be a party wall with joint responsibility.
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