Economy 7 , looking for Cheapest rates

Tennisgirl2000

yelias said:

With respect, it really is immaterial who others have chosen as their supplier (unless seeking feedback on a supplier, and there are feedback threads for almost every supplier available on this forum)

You also need to quickly undertand how this forum operates. e.g. in the case of the poster you have asked, you will be able to see that although they have been a member here for over a decade, they have only ever made about 20 posts in that decade, the last (before the one you quoted) being about a year ago. The poster has not returned to the forum in the 8 days that have passed since they made that last post.

Another user may not be on E7, they will almost certainly have a different consumption to you, may well live in a different supply region (so costs will vary), the tariff they are on may no longer be available to new applicants, etc.

Furthermore, you will already be aware of dual rate tariffs if, as you said, you have an E7 meter and are currently supplied by Bulb.

If you follow the advice I provided with you in my first reply to you earlier in this thread, you will see a link to instructions on how to find the best deal for you.

I have to say I do not like the tone of your response! I have been on this forum for many years, this being my second profile. So I do understand how it works. 

I followed the advice you provided, and have still come up with nothing. 2 different comparison sites gave me great tariffs, when calling the companies directly they didn't have those tariffs to offer. So I feel like these sites lie to get customers to sign up. 

I came here looking for help and advice. I am a single mum with no support system here in the UK. I am struggling to pay these bills right now, and I haven't even got to winter yet. I really don't appreciate the way you have replied at all. 

tim_p

I wouldn’t necessarily expect a company to offer an on-line tariff when you call them. You don’t need to call them at all, all the info and what to do will be on the website. The comparison site should show you the actual tariff and have a ‘proceed’ or similar button. You then do all the necessary on-line, usually directly on the suppliers website as the cheaper quotes won’t provide a bung to the comparison site, so it’s up to you to do the work,  and you will be set up.  The companies won’t ‘lie’ to you (well, there’s one that might!)

MWT

Tennisgirl2000 said:

I followed the advice you provided, and have still come up with nothing. 2 different comparison sites gave me great tariffs, when calling the companies directly they didn't have those tariffs to offer. So I feel like these sites lie to get customers to sign up.

Most energy suppliers offer exclusive rates to the switching sites so you can only get that rate through the site where you found it.

Phoning direct will not get you access to that rate...

Do pay attention to the actual cost per unit and standing charge, don't judge anything based on the estimated monthly direct debit, that will change in line with your actual usage no matter who you go with...

Tallerdave

Tennisgirl2000 said:

I have to say I do not like the tone of your response! I have been on this forum for many years, this being my second profile. So I do understand how it works. 

I followed the advice you provided, and have still come up with nothing. 2 different comparison sites gave me great tariffs, when calling the companies directly they didn't have those tariffs to offer. So I feel like these sites lie to get customers to sign up. 

I came here looking for help and advice. I am a single mum with no support system here in the UK. I am struggling to pay these bills right now, and I haven't even got to winter yet. I really don't appreciate the way you have replied at all. 

Don't worry, some contributors get a bit obsessed about frequency of logins, number of posts - no idea why.

Try the citizens advice link posted earlier in the thread. Try it with 12,000kWh with 60/40 night day split, then 70/30 split. Repeat for 18,000kWh. Then repeat again for non-E7. What suppliers/rates stand out? 

Don't phone, everything's done online for cheapest rates.

Tennisgirl2000

Tallerdave said:

Tennisgirl2000 said:

I have to say I do not like the tone of your response! I have been on this forum for many years, this being my second profile. So I do understand how it works. 

I followed the advice you provided, and have still come up with nothing. 2 different comparison sites gave me great tariffs, when calling the companies directly they didn't have those tariffs to offer. So I feel like these sites lie to get customers to sign up. 

I came here looking for help and advice. I am a single mum with no support system here in the UK. I am struggling to pay these bills right now, and I haven't even got to winter yet. I really don't appreciate the way you have replied at all. 

Don't worry, some contributors get a bit obsessed about frequency of logins, number of posts - no idea why.

Try the citizens advice link posted earlier in the thread. Try it with 12,000kWh with 60/40 night day split, then 70/30 split. Repeat for 18,000kWh. Then repeat again for non-E7. What suppliers/rates stand out? 

Don't phone, everything's done online for cheapest rates.

Thank you! 

Yes, will go back to the Citizens advice. That's where I found the really good rates with Symbio, but there was no proceed button to sign up for the deal. Hence why I called them directly. 

I will keep searching and see what suppliers come out best. 

QrizB

The CAB site won't automatically switch you (intentionally, it's not what the CAB is for) and some of the tariffs they list are exclusive to one of the *other* comparison sites but CAB don't tell you which sites they are.

I've never managed to find where those Symbio tariffs are offered either!

Tallerdave

Tennisgirl2000 said:

Tallerdave said:

Tennisgirl2000 said:

I have to say I do not like the tone of your response! I have been on this forum for many years, this being my second profile. So I do understand how it works. 

I followed the advice you provided, and have still come up with nothing. 2 different comparison sites gave me great tariffs, when calling the companies directly they didn't have those tariffs to offer. So I feel like these sites lie to get customers to sign up. 

I came here looking for help and advice. I am a single mum with no support system here in the UK. I am struggling to pay these bills right now, and I haven't even got to winter yet. I really don't appreciate the way you have replied at all. 

Don't worry, some contributors get a bit obsessed about frequency of logins, number of posts - no idea why.

Try the citizens advice link posted earlier in the thread. Try it with 12,000kWh with 60/40 night day split, then 70/30 split. Repeat for 18,000kWh. Then repeat again for non-E7. What suppliers/rates stand out? 

Don't phone, everything's done online for cheapest rates.

Thank you! 

Yes, will go back to the Citizens advice. That's where I found the really good rates with Symbio, but there was no proceed button to sign up for the deal. Hence why I called them directly. 

I will keep searching and see what suppliers come out best. 

Symbio tick all the boxes on price, they're just incompetent at everything else (everything they say on phone and by email is utter garbage - eg blaming Covid, climate change etc for their excessive estimates). Their billing scheme based on ludicrously high estimates is weird, but the pain can be worth it to access the cheapest energy around. 

If you go with them, give them a low annual consumption figure (ie if you think you'll use 18,000kWh, tell them 12,000kWh) and always submit meter readings on the last day of the month, every month without fail.

Gerry1

It seems that several price comparison websites simply can't keep up to date with the vast number of tariff changes, which means that the best deals they feature are sometimes no longer available.  One site even referred to Your Energy Sussex which ceased over six months ago !

Citizens Advice lists no fewer than 233 electricity tariffs for Symbio, and as there are 14 supply regions that means there are 3262 rates for just one fuel from one company.

All you can do is to enter your annual kWh usage derived from actual meter readings (or make a best guess if you've recently moved) into the CA and 'Which? Switch' websites together with a few others (make sure to switch to the whole market view, often well hidden), and then go to the relevant company's website if the PCW can't switch you directly.  It's all a bit of a black art (you'll also need a crystal ball when deciding between variable and fixed rates) but nothing is worse than doing nothing and ending up on an expensive standard tariff.