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Is it worth reporting someone who brake checked you?

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  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,433 Forumite
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    edited 5 July 2021 at 5:03PM
    molerat said:
    Again not excusing the other driver's behaviour but I can't see how they got in front of the HGV and undertook you if you if you were carrying out the overtake correctly.
    Quite easily if the OP was correctly allowing 200 feet stopping distance (about 15 car lengths) before pulling in in front of the HGV after the overtake.
  • wazza2004
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    zagfles said:
    molerat said:
    Again not excusing the other driver's behaviour but I can't see how they got in front of the HGV and undertook you if you if you were carrying out the overtake correctly.
    Quite easily if the OP was correctly allowing 200 feet stopping distance (about 15 car lengths) before pulling in in front of the HGV after the overtake.
    I have been taught that it's safe to move back to first lane once you can see the front of the vehicle you have just overtaken in the rear view mirror and always check over your shoulder to double check.
  • JamoLew
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    edited 9 July 2021 at 7:12AM
    zagfles said:
    molerat said:
    Again not excusing the other driver's behaviour but I can't see how they got in front of the HGV and undertook you if you if you were carrying out the overtake correctly.
    Quite easily if the OP was correctly allowing 200 feet stopping distance (about 15 car lengths) before pulling in in front of the HGV after the overtake.
    where do you get that from ?

    as above - I was always told to pull back in once i could see the vehicle in my mirror

    Most people couldn't judge 200 feet looking forwards , let alone in their rear view mirror and I assume you mean this distance would change based on the speed of the vehicle that you are overtaking
    .
    That would require another variable to be considered whilst conducting an overtake.

    Frankly (imo)- speed and distance are the factors that drivers seem to struggle with the most.

    The "mirror" method is perfectly adequate and safe


  • zagfles
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    JamoLew said:
    zagfles said:
    molerat said:
    Again not excusing the other driver's behaviour but I can't see how they got in front of the HGV and undertook you if you if you were carrying out the overtake correctly.
    Quite easily if the OP was correctly allowing 200 feet stopping distance (about 15 car lengths) before pulling in in front of the HGV after the overtake.
    where do you get that from ?

    as above - I was always told to pull back in once i could see the vehicle in my mirror

    Most people couldn't judge 200 feet looking forwards , let alone in their rear view mirror and I assume you mean this distance would change based on the speed of the vehicle that you are overtaking
    .
    That would require another variable to be considered whilst conducting an overtake.

    Frankly (imo)- speed and distance are the factors that drivers seem to struggle with the most.

    The "mirror" method is perfectly adequate and safe



    Stopping distance at about 55mph, usual HGV speed https://theorytest.org.uk/stopping-distances/
    But even if you just wait till you can see the car in the rear view mirror, that still gives an idiot driver behind you the opportunity to undertake you after overtaking the HGV.


  • JamoLew
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    edited 9 July 2021 at 8:58AM
    No - I understand how the other driver manage to perform their manoeuvre

    What I was questioning was your use of factoring in the stopping distance of the other vehicle in determining when the overtake manoeuvre is safely concluded -- not something I have ever heard or read before

    Whilst it probably makes a good deal of sense - you used the word "correctly" indicating it was something that was commonly known/understood/documented and that any other method was incorrect
  • AdrianC
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    There's certainly no need to leave the other vehicle's complete stopping distance before pulling back in - not least because you're travelling faster, so your own stopping distance is longer...

    Vehicles don't just come to a sudden dead stop.

    Sure, don't chop right in the very second your back bumper's clear of their front... but don't wait until you're a mile down the road with a hundred metres clear... That's just going to make the vehicles behind you think that you're not planning on ever moving back left. Especially if you've bimbled slowly past, seemingly oblivious to their presence...
  • bob_a_builder
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    edited 9 July 2021 at 9:16AM
    neilmcl said:
    wazza2004 said:
    caprikid1 said:
    "Had the cruise control set at 70mph.  "

    I suspect you oblivous to the driver behind wanting to progress and were relatively slow to complete the overtake and return to the nearside lane. Given that he managed to overtake you. 

    No excuse for brake checking, post up the footage here so we can see.
    Would like to post footage but will seek advice from police first. I read somewhere that if I put the footage on social media it might affect the case.
    Absolutely no reason why it would.
    Except when you submit the footage via the Police dashcam  reporting sites, they will ask you to remove any online versions
    Thames Valley certainly do/did
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