Energy efficient washer dryer

w00519773

I am looking for a new integrated washer dryer.  So far; I have looked at this:

1) https://www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-partners-jlwd1614-freestanding-washer-dryer-8kg-4kg-load-1600rpm-spin-white/p3647054?sku=237475225&s_ppc=2dx92700055387906058&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImZS05InF8QIVCLLtCh3wEQxgEAQYASABEgJkVvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

2) https://ao.com/product/hwd80b14979-haier-washer-dryer-white-76608-2.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjOPEoIvF8QIVkb7tCh3iWQR-EAAYASAAEgJc5vD_BwE&&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMIjOPEoIvF8QIVkb7tCh3iWQR-EAAYASAAEgJc5vD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!8149!3!486351307610!e!!g!!haier%20hwd80-b14979&gclsrc=aw.ds&&&WT.srch=1&WT.z_MT=Search&WT.z_RTM=Google%20PPC&WT.z_DT=c&WT.z_KT=Product%20Code&WT.z_PT=MDA-Laundry&WT.z_CN=Codes%20-%20Washer%20Dryers%20-%20API&WT.z_AG=Haier%20-%20HWD80-B14979_WH&WT.z_KW=haier%20hwd80-b14979&WT.z_AT=Washer%20Dryer&WT.z_MAT=e&utm_medium=search&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=codes%20-%20washer%20dryers%20-%20api|haier%20-%20hwd80-b14979_wh&utm_term=sku|exact&utm_content=kwd-919798641568

I would be grateful for comments; recommendations or suggestions.

Gerry1

• Have a look at the relevant reports in 'Which?'

• John Lewis is rated Bad by 67% of Trustpilot reviews, and ao.com is rated Excellent by 87%.  Not proof positive but certainly something to consider.
  

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Reed_Richards

The most energy-efficient driers should be those which use a heat pump.  Online I found an AEG washer-dryers that uses a heat pump but I don't think you will find much choice.

https://www.aeg.co.uk/laundry/laundry/washer-dryers/free-standing-washer-dryer/l9wec169r3/  

daveyjp

John Lewis branded machines are AEG.

Heat pump dryers are efficient because they take hours and hours to dry clothes.

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daveyjp said:

John Lewis branded machines are AEG.

Heat pump dryers are efficient because they take hours and hours to dry clothes.

The maximum time to dry a 9kg load of mixed clothes in our Samsung dryer is 3hrs 5m. Often it is playing its musical tune in less than 2hrs. The maximum wattage during the drying process is c.600watts.

JohnB47

I agree with Dolors comment. Our John Lewis (AEG badged, as mentioned) heat pump drier takes no more than 2 hours to dry anything - even towels. We're very happy with it.

Back in the 1980's, we had a Zanussi combined condenser type washer/drier - never again. It took a ridiculous amount of time to dry clothes.

OK, they are surely more efficient today but the first review for the JL machine says "Performs well and meets our needs as a couple, although for a family the washing /drying process obviously becomes much longer than having two separate appliances".

SPOWER

Please watch these combined appliances, the engineer @ Hoover Candy Group told me whilst they can wash 6kg of clothes, the dryer can only handle half that load and that is why they break down.

Cardew

WHICH have a free article on line about the pros and cons of a heat pump dryer, although you will have to pay for the comparison of models. https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/tumble-dryers/article/heat-pump-tumble-dryers-apWfz5V3Wgt2

This link shows 70 models on sale, so there appears to be plenty of choice https://ao.com/l/tumble_dryers-987/1-20/17/?sort=aol_saleincvat

I purchased a Miele heat pump dryer in 2012(with 10 year warranty) and the electrical consumption is remarkably low. Nothing has gone wrong so the technology is presumably reliable.

The WHICH article talks of 6 years to break even on recovering the additional cost of a heat pump dryer over a condensing dryer. That of course depends on many factors, mainly purchase price, frequency of use and final spin speed of washing machine. Given Miele are expensive I doubt I have yet broken even.

The maximum length of time taken to dry a full load on my machine is 139 minutes and maximum consumption 2.4kWh. However that is for 'gentle tumble' having used a low spin speed in the washing machine; hence high residual water. A normal full load to 'extra dry' for myself is  90 minutes and 1.4kWh.

One further point is that the more expensive dryers(and washing machines) have more programs than a space shuttle; there a hundreds of combinations catering for every fabric known to man. Who uses them?

QrizB

Cardew said:

WHICH have a free article on line about the pros and cons of a heat pump dryer, although you will have to pay for the comparison of models. https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/tumble-dryers/article/heat-pump-tumble-dryers-apWfz5V3Wgt2

This link shows 70 models on sale, so there appears to be plenty of choice https://ao.com/l/tumble_dryers-987/1-20/17/?sort=aol_saleincvat

The OP is looking for an integrated washer-dryer, not just a dryer; there is a much smaller number of these to choose from (see link, not filtered for condenser vs heat pump).

I've got a regular condenser-type washer dryer, and Indesit IWDC6125. It will wash and dry a load in 4 hours or so. It's not the most energy-efficient dryer (link) but I can dry my laundry outdoors for at least half the year which reduces the power use somewhat.

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QrizB said:

Cardew said:

WHICH have a free article on line about the pros and cons of a heat pump dryer, although you will have to pay for the comparison of models. https://www.which.co.uk/reviews/tumble-dryers/article/heat-pump-tumble-dryers-apWfz5V3Wgt2

This link shows 70 models on sale, so there appears to be plenty of choice https://ao.com/l/tumble_dryers-987/1-20/17/?sort=aol_saleincvat

The OP is looking for an integrated washer-dryer, not just a dryer; there is a much smaller number of these to choose from (see link, not filtered for condenser vs heat pump).

I've got a regular condenser-type washer dryer, and Indesit IWDC6125. It will wash and dry a load in 4 hours or so. It's not the most energy-efficient dryer (link) but I can dry my laundry outdoors for at least half the year which reduces the power use somewhat.

A concern was raised about heat pumps. As there are now washer/dryers with a heat pump (eg; AEG) then responding to concerns about heat pump drying is arguably relevant.

SPOWER

This entire thread is now reading like an advert for AEG.  YAWN.