No main socket in house

JJ_Egan

Put your details in BT web site and see what they say regarding speed available at that house .

JJ_Egan

If you do go down the Mesh Wifi route its cheaper  long term to buy rather than pay the premium to BT .

FreshlyCutFlowers

JJ_Egan said:

Put your details in BT web site and see what they say regarding speed available at that house .

65 - 80 / 15 - 18
seems fine to me though a bit surprised that it's the highest available speed 🤔 I would think that 'full fibre' was capable of much more. What is the technology behind broadband with no land-line which limits it at 80? 

Virgin promised I could get 500 if desired with fttp, however I see BT doesn't offer fttp.. So what is it if not on the phone line? 

JJ_Egan

Full fibre as you call it is BT Openreach standard product fibre to the cabinet .. Key is distance and quality of the old copper phone line from local cabinet .

Not sure what you mean by no landline as you pay landline rental .

Fibre to the premises FTTP  is the newer Openreach roll out of optical cabling with speeds capable of 1000.

Its a rollout over the next few years .

Virgin is coax cabling  with 500 meg available but only to areas where VM have installed .Totally separate only used by VM

FreshlyCutFlowers

Thanks for all comments.
I'm going to use openreach as I don't see anything good coming from using VM. 

I took some (poor) pictures with my phone outside. I'm new to this so completely green, apologies if obvious. 
This is how the cables from the nearby pole have been attached to the neighbours, right below the gutter. 


Assuming they want to place it similarly for me, can I instruct them to drill right there by the vent on my 1st floor rather than pull the cable down to ground level and then in? 
 The 'technical team' on the line said I'll have to ask when the engineer arrives but I'd rather get someone else to drill for me if they refuse for whatever reason.. 

Thanks so much for all the help! 

Roland_Sausage

FreshlyCutFlowers said:

Thanks for all comments.
I'm going to use openreach as I don't see anything good coming from using VM. 

I took some (poor) pictures with my phone outside. I'm new to this so completely green, apologies if obvious. 
This is how the cables from the nearby pole have been attached to the neighbours, right below the gutter. 


Assuming they want to place it similarly for me, can I instruct them to drill right there by the vent on my 1st floor rather than pull the cable down to ground level and then in? 
 The 'technical team' on the line said I'll have to ask when the engineer arrives but I'd rather get someone else to drill for me if they refuse for whatever reason.. 

Thanks so much for all the help! 

I used to install phone lines and if the customer insisted on this, then yes I probably would agree to it.

It would be drilled from the inside to the outside (I am guessing the vent shows on the inside as well) and it would look pretty bad on the inside with the cable entering close to the ceiling and then running down the wall to the socket. Unless you were mounting the socket at this height too of course.

Far better would be to drill it just above the skirting board height and mount the socket over the hole. You'd have more cable on the outside, but surely how it looks on the inside is more important?

FreshlyCutFlowers

Roland_Sausage said:

I used to install phone lines and if the customer insisted on this, then yes I probably would agree to it.

It would be drilled from the inside to the outside (I am guessing the vent shows on the inside as well) and it would look pretty bad on the inside with the cable entering close to the ceiling and then running down the wall to the socket. Unless you were mounting the socket at this height too of course.

Far better would be to drill it just above the skirting board height and mount the socket over the hole. You'd have more cable on the outside, but surely how it looks on the inside is more important?

Thanks so much for weighing in, you've really helped me relax about this with your comment. When speaking Vodafone they tell me 'the engineers will install where they want to, we cannot instruct them'..

I was thinking asking them to drill where they would otherwise attach was less work for them and a compromise I'm OK with..

However, my main goal is simply to have the main socket (and my router) on the 1st floor. Ideally in the rear (better reach for entire house and my office can use wired connection) rather than the front displayed in pictures above. This whole engineering appointment has been shrouded in mystery and I'd like to be prepared with options in case they just tell me 'no' about getting the main socket on the rear 1st floor room.