Car breaks squeaking after new pads/discs fitted

BOWFER

confused.com2 said:

BOWFER said:

confused.com2 said:

Well I've contacted BMW direct who have confirmed that my model does have shoes. They said the garage should have checked them when they changed the discs and pads as this does happen. 

I can't get my head around why a garage changing front pads and discs would be expected to check rear shoes.
And I definitely can't get my head around why changing front pads/discs could lead to the rear drums making noise.

It was the rears changed, as mentioned in my opening post! Never mentioned fronts!

So where's do shoes come in then?
Does it have a wee drum just for the handbrake?
Doesn't really matter as the same questions apply
Why would anyone changing (rear) discs and pads automatically check the handbrake drum shoes? (they wouldn't)
And why would changing the (rear) discs and pads mean squeaking 'can often happen' from the handbrake drum? (it shouldn't)

Ibrahim5

If a car is serviced and that involves checking the front brake pads & discs then that service would normally include checking the rear shoes.

confused.com2

BOWFER said:

confused.com2 said:

BOWFER said:

confused.com2 said:

Well I've contacted BMW direct who have confirmed that my model does have shoes. They said the garage should have checked them when they changed the discs and pads as this does happen. 

I can't get my head around why a garage changing front pads and discs would be expected to check rear shoes.
And I definitely can't get my head around why changing front pads/discs could lead to the rear drums making noise.

It was the rears changed, as mentioned in my opening post! Never mentioned fronts!

So where's do shoes come in then?
Does it have a wee drum just for the handbrake?
Doesn't really matter as the same questions apply
Why would anyone changing (rear) discs and pads automatically check the handbrake drum shoes? (they wouldn't)
And why would changing the (rear) discs and pads mean squeaking 'can often happen' from the handbrake drum? (it shouldn't)

I'm no mechanic! I called my local BMW service garage and they told me when they change rear pads and discs they always check the shoes as well whilst they can access them. Even the garage where it was done said changing the discs and pads can then affect the shoes, admitting this, you'd think it'd be easier to check at the time. They've said they won't charge me unless they need replacing and then only for parts. 

All I know now is my car is yet again getting stripped down for the second time in a week. 

Ditzy_Mitzy

BOWFER said:

confused.com2 said:

BOWFER said:

confused.com2 said:

Well I've contacted BMW direct who have confirmed that my model does have shoes. They said the garage should have checked them when they changed the discs and pads as this does happen. 

I can't get my head around why a garage changing front pads and discs would be expected to check rear shoes.
And I definitely can't get my head around why changing front pads/discs could lead to the rear drums making noise.

It was the rears changed, as mentioned in my opening post! Never mentioned fronts!

So where's do shoes come in then?
Does it have a wee drum just for the handbrake?
Doesn't really matter as the same questions apply
Why would anyone changing (rear) discs and pads automatically check the handbrake drum shoes? (they wouldn't)
And why would changing the (rear) discs and pads mean squeaking 'can often happen' from the handbrake drum? (it shouldn't)

A brief look suggests that the parking brake drum on BMWs, the rotating bit, is part of the brake disc.  Renewing the disc, therefore, renews the drum assembly.  It's possible the garage didn't properly align the shoes or loosened the handbrake cable or similar when doing the job.  It ought to be easy enough to fix.  

confused.com2

Ibrahim5 said:

If a car is serviced and that involves checking the front brake pads & discs then that service would normally include checking the rear shoes.

Car was serviced in January and passed the MOT with no advisories or mentions of any issues with breaks or shoes. 

AdrianC

Ibrahim5 said:

If a car is serviced and that involves checking the front brake pads & discs then that service would normally include checking the rear shoes.

Checking rear shoes can be a lot more involved than checking front pads.

Front pads - remove wheel.
Rear shoes - remove wheel, undo hub nut, slacken handbrake, pull wheel bearing off hub, remove drum.

And given rear shoes wear FAR slower than front pads, I don't think it's reasonable to expect or require it to be done at EVERY service.

Ibrahim5

confused.com2 said:

Why did you have work done Von the brakes?Ibrahim5 said:

If a car is serviced and that involves checking the front brake pads & discs then that service would normally include checking the rear shoes.

Car was serviced in January and passed the MOT with no advisories or mentions of any issues with breaks or shoes. 

Why did you have work done on the brakes?

confused.com2

Ibrahim5 said:

confused.com2 said:

Why did you have work done Von the brakes?Ibrahim5 said:

If a car is serviced and that involves checking the front brake pads & discs then that service would normally include checking the rear shoes.

Car was serviced in January and passed the MOT with no advisories or mentions of any issues with breaks or shoes. 

Why did you have work done on the brakes?

The break service light came on, it's at different intervals than the main service for some reason. Took it to get checked over and that's when they said the pads and discs needed replacing, one was worse than the other but thought I might as well replace both. It's used heavily for work so well looked after.

Ibrahim5

I would have thought a brake service would include looking at the brakes.

confused.com2

Ibrahim5 said:

I would have thought a brake service would include looking at the brakes.

They did look at the brakes in January and reported as fine, I've done a lot of mileage since so imagine wearing has happened in 6 months.