Smart Meter Installed yesterday by So Energy. Now saying I need a Gas Safe Engineer ?

adonis

Well that is one good reason not to get a smart meter,

perhaps we should ask for their GSR number before they touch a gas pipe as us non GSR members aren't allowed to.

jefaz07

adonis said:

Well that is one good reason not to get a smart meter,

perhaps we should ask for their GSR number before they touch a gas pipe as us non GSR members aren't allowed to.

They will be ‘qualified’ but competent is a whole other story. 

I have been In a property at a a gas escape while the guy who did it is still in the same street…being audited. 

There are some…and I stress some, that should be nowhere near gas. 

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adonis said:

Well that is one good reason not to get a smart meter,

perhaps we should ask for their GSR number before they touch a gas pipe as us non GSR members aren't allowed to.

From the Meter Operators Code of Practice Agreement:

Quote: For gas meter installation, individuals must be deemed suitably competent and possess appropriate Gas Safe registration. By law all gas metering workers must be registered on the Gas Safe Register for categories relating to the work they perform. Unquote

Ectophile

fruitpie said:

Had smart meter installed yesterday by So Energy.  Their engineer then issued me with a Warning Notice  - Do Not Use.  He advised that I have to get my own Gas Safe Engineer out to confirm the Veissman boiler is working to manufacturers guidelines.    Does anyone know if this is correct.   

Also same engineer has put a notice tag in the meter box, advising that I also need to get an electrician out to earth bond it.   Can anyone advise on this too please.   

Thank you 

As for the bonding, there should be a bit of green & yellow stripy wire from either the outlet of the meter, or just after the pipe enters the house if it's an external meter. It connects to the main earth terminal of your house wiring.

An electrical safety inspection will fail if it's missing.

It's a safety thing to make sure any pipes entering the house are at the same earth voltage as any plumbing and electrical appliances inside the house.

Anyanka1

That word, "deemed"... By whom, pray?

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Anyanka1 said:

That word, "deemed"... By whom, pray?

Ofgem and the HSE under the Code of Practice for Approved Meter Installers and Gas Supply Standard Licence Conditions.

Quote: Persons who install and/or maintain meter installations within the requirements of the Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations (GSIUR) must be competent to do so and be a ‘member of a class of persons’ as specified in the GSIURs. A register is maintained of the businesses who are a “member of a class of persons”. This register is administered by an agency appointed by the Health and Safety Executive.

In addition to the above requirements with regards to safety, the Gas Supplier Licence places obligations on Gas Suppliers for a meter to be installed by a person who is “approved” (or that the installation must be inspected by an “approved meter installer” within a 20-working day period). An “approved meter installer” is one who is approved for the parts of this combined Code of Practice which apply to the relevant Category of meter installations.

SPAA EC administers the `Approved Meter Installer’ (“AMI”) Scheme, which approves persons as Approved Meter Installers for the purpose of this Code of Practice. The AMI Scheme requirements are detailed within Schedule 40 of the SPAA. Where a provision of the SPAA applies as if it were included within this CoP, that provision shall have the meaning which is given to it in the SPAA as amended from time to time.

AMIs will be assessed against the relevant requirements of this Code of Practice. The content of this Code of Practice is intended to be consistent with the Code of Practice for Meter Asset Managers (MAMCoP) that was developed to facilitate the competitive market for metering services.

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Anyanka1

I just do not understand how it can possibly be customers' responsibility to ensure something an energy company or their agents does is safe.  Have I misunderstood?

If I am ever reduced to having to opt for a tariff which requires a smart meter, it will be a last resort.  If I am then further to be held accountable for the installation of something I did not want in the first place, the world has gone mad, IMHO.  Perhaps I have missed something, I hope.

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Anyanka1 said:

I just do not understand how it can possibly be customers' responsibility to ensure something an energy company or their agents does is safe.  Have I misunderstood?

If I am ever reduced to having to opt for a tariff which requires a smart meter, it will be a last resort.  If I am then further to be held accountable for the installation of something I did not want in the first place, the world has gone mad, IMHO.  Perhaps I have missed something, I hope.

No one is holding you accountable for anything. The installer - whether it is smart or non smart - installs the meters in accordance with his/her training and approvals. He/she is also required to carry out basic safety tests; eg, testing the gas supply pressure before and after the meter replacement. He/she will also relight any gas pilot lights and purge all appliances. They are also trained to note/record anything which is potentially unsafe but they are not trained to investigate further or repair; eg, a broken earth lead. 

Installers are fully trained and are required to provide photographic evidence of everything that they do. 

Carrot007

adonis said:

Well that is one good reason not to get a smart meter,

It is no differnet on non smart meters. It has always been like this.

If the installer is nice he will warn you before hand that after turning off the sopply things may not work after and he will be required to safety check all gas things.

(not that anyone is gettign non smart meters anymore, just smart meters in dumb mode (not that it makes a difference)).