Fixtures list

Irishpearce26

dimbo61 said:

Wall cabinets in a kitchen are normally fixed to the wall with strong fittings and should be part of the fixtures and fittings.
Building insurance normally covers everything that is bolted down in a property so if you turned it upside down it won't fall out !
Therefore wall units are part of the kitchen and should be included in the property sale.
Range cooker can be easily disconnected and removed.
What are second hand wall units worth ?
Same with a Ranger cooker £500/750 tops unless AGA with fancy heating for rest of house.
Dig your heels in and tell estate agents you expect the kitchen to stay as you viewed it and anything less would mean £5,000 less in your offer.

Fixtures & Fittings is the name of the list, this is the opportunity for the vendor to state what is staying and what is going. Simply saying if its bolted on its got to stay is incorrect. My TV is bolted to the wall but I didn't leave that, i had wardrobes for safety were bolted to the wall but I didn't leave them. Its how you state it on the form which is key.

I agree that taking kitchen cabinet's is a bit odd, is it actually the cabinets and not something else that they have hanging in the kitchen? Many similar posts like this show you need to be clear in your offer on whether certain items are included. When I offered I made sure to say that my offer should include the integrated appliances.

OP i would go back to the vendor and say that the advert stated kitchen cabinets were part of the sale, if they are set on taking them then check how much the cabinets would cost and ask for a reduction accordingly. The coffee machine i would either make an offer for it to stay or let it go.

Sazzy1253

Thanks everyone. We heard back from the vendor today and they’d ‘forgotten’ that they’d agreed to sell the oven, coffee maker (and units 😂) with the property. Unfortunately, they’ve already removed them and in the process they’ve broken 4 other kitchen units that were surrounding the coffee maker ( as it was built in I assume) and taken plaster and tiles off the wall removing the oven and units. Very annoying as it’s newly renovated (which was the appeal). 

They’ll get back to us in the morning about a price reduction 

Sazzy1253

I’ve also re checked the listing on the estate agents website and the oven and coffee maker are listed as part of the sale. Maybe they thought we’d forget...

JJR45

If they have rented it out in the past then newly renovated why take anything out?
Seems very odd, is the kitchen complete as per making the house habitable?
If not it could be a mortgage issue if your solicitor informs them. (Presuming you have a mortgage?)

Sazzy1253

No idea at all. Most of the house has been renovated this year but the kitchen is 3 years old

We’ve spoken to our lender and we still for the criteria as we have running water/sink etc. Which is a relief. It’s just very confusing and time consuming 

JJR45

I'd play them for a new kitchen, because it sounds like it will need that unless you can find cabinets and tiles to match (which is very unlikely).
Unless they can inform you where they got it from?

Irishpearce26

JJR45 said:

I'd play them for a new kitchen, because it sounds like it will need that unless you can find cabinets and tiles to match (which is very unlikely).
Unless they can inform you where they got it from?

haha behave. New kitchen get real, they just have to make good by replacing the units and tiles. 

OP also remember if you get a reduction you need to get a new mortgage offer which could change the LTV if close to the limit. 

Sazzy1253

The kitchen units are no longer stocked anymore which is another annoyance. 

We’d prefer for them just to replace the units, tiles etc so we wouldn’t have to change our mortgage as it would add delays. We also don’t want the faff of having to put a new kitchen in. 

No idea what to do about the oven/ coffee maker as they’ve been valued at £4000 which is quite a lot to loose considering we factored them into our offer. 

Will see what they say in the morning!  

 

JJR45

Irishpearce26 said:

JJR45 said:

I'd play them for a new kitchen, because it sounds like it will need that unless you can find cabinets and tiles to match (which is very unlikely).
Unless they can inform you where they got it from?

haha behave. New kitchen get real, they just have to make good by replacing the units and tiles. 

OP also remember if you get a reduction you need to get a new mortgage offer which could change the LTV if close to the limit. 

Why, they offered bassed on a fully integrated matching kitchen?
If you bodge now and mismatch it will lower the future value or need replacing at some point.
If it is not available as per OP has said. I fully agree, replacement units and tiles. Or the cost reduction to do so.

Samiire

Sazzy1253 said:

They’ll get back to us in the morning about a price reduction 

OP, just be sure you can afford to pay outright or via credit for the new kitchen/items if you go down this route. The price reduction will simply reduce the amount you owe over your term, but won’t give you the cash to pay for the work needed.

(If you do pay by credit, make sure you don’t apply for that until after you’ve completed your purchase of the property.)