Enforced Hotel Quarantine

Grumpy_chap

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

silvercar

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

Why? The quarantine is imposed from the UK government because it perceives a risk in travellers arriving from red destinations bringing back a variant of concern. Other countries have different views. If you have been in Portugal for 11 days, the UK considers that you are no longer of sufficient risk of bringing back a variant of concern. Though note that a covid test is still required. 

It’s the same all over the world, different rules applied by different countries. 

Thrugelmir

silvercar said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

Why? The quarantine is imposed from the UK government because it perceives a risk in travellers arriving from red destinations bringing back a variant of concern. Other countries have different views. If you have been in Portugal for 11 days, the UK considers that you are no longer of sufficient risk of bringing back a variant of concern. Though note that a covid test is still required. 

It’s the same all over the world, different rules applied by different countries. 

So you don't perceive a risk from Covid at all?  All borders should simply remain open. 

eskbanker

Putting to one side all the debate about the rights and wrongs of gaming the system to visit a third country en route home, I could be wrong but read the OP as implying that his wife has the unused return leg of a BA ticket to London, and no money for additional accommodation (not just in the UK but implicitly anywhere else) or flights, so the possibilities of flying elsewhere would be academic anyway?

CKhalvashi

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

I disagree, completely within the rules. I am aware of a company that was offering serviced apartments for UK red list clients, before returning to the UK for a home isolation.

Thrugelmir said:

silvercar said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

Why? The quarantine is imposed from the UK government because it perceives a risk in travellers arriving from red destinations bringing back a variant of concern. Other countries have different views. If you have been in Portugal for 11 days, the UK considers that you are no longer of sufficient risk of bringing back a variant of concern. Though note that a covid test is still required. 

It’s the same all over the world, different rules applied by different countries. 

So you don't perceive a risk from Covid at all?  All borders should simply remain open. 

A risk which would be significantly reduced by spending time outside of a red list country, and isolating at home on return if legally required. As above, completely within the rules, which are rules I would not suggest anyone breaks.

I've been clear in my view since the red list came in that flights should not be banned, people who have visited red list countries in the last 10 days should be obliged to enter by direct flights only and that the flight ban policy is going against what the government is trying to achieve. I know we are likely to disagree on this though.

Penelopa.Pitstop

Staying for 10-11 days in third country on a way back from Kenya, should be much cheaper than hotel quarantine in the UK. So it's probably best to check where could she fly from Kenya and which country is on a green list. Right now, probably not a lot of choice.
It might be possible to change return ticket with BA to fly to Portugal.

Thrugelmir

CKhalvashi said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

I disagree, completely within the rules. I am aware of a company that was offering serviced apartments for UK red list clients, before returning to the UK for a home isolation.

Thrugelmir said:

silvercar said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

Why? The quarantine is imposed from the UK government because it perceives a risk in travellers arriving from red destinations bringing back a variant of concern. Other countries have different views. If you have been in Portugal for 11 days, the UK considers that you are no longer of sufficient risk of bringing back a variant of concern. Though note that a covid test is still required. 

It’s the same all over the world, different rules applied by different countries. 

So you don't perceive a risk from Covid at all?  All borders should simply remain open. 

A risk which would be significantly reduced by spending time outside of a red list country, and isolating at home on return if legally required. As above, completely within the rules, which are rules I would not suggest anyone breaks.

I've been clear in my view since the red list came in that flights should not be banned, people who have visited red list countries in the last 10 days should be obliged to enter by direct flights only and that the flight ban policy is going against what the government is trying to achieve. I know we are likely to disagree on this though.

I was questioning the underlying sentiment not the rules themselves.  Far too often we forget that other parts of the world aren't as fortunate as ourselves. Nor is the data anywhere as near as accurate or the same level of self discipline present. 

silvercar

Thrugelmir said:

silvercar said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

Why? The quarantine is imposed from the UK government because it perceives a risk in travellers arriving from red destinations bringing back a variant of concern. Other countries have different views. If you have been in Portugal for 11 days, the UK considers that you are no longer of sufficient risk of bringing back a variant of concern. Though note that a covid test is still required. 

It’s the same all over the world, different rules applied by different countries. 

So you don't perceive a risk from Covid at all?  All borders should simply remain open. 

No, I didn’t say that. Borders should remain open with pre-test, isolation once home and re-testing. I can see the logic of hotel quarantine when we can’t trust people to obey the rules and the risks from a certain country are too high.
Covid doesn’t respect artificial boundaries, the risks of visiting Bolton are greater than Portugal.

lisyloo

Thrugelmir said:

CKhalvashi said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

I disagree, completely within the rules. I am aware of a company that was offering serviced apartments for UK red list clients, before returning to the UK for a home isolation.

Thrugelmir said:

silvercar said:

Grumpy_chap said:

superbigal said:

Might be cheaper to fly to Portugal.  Have a lovely holiday for the required time period and then return to the UK.
Obviously I do not know Portugal's requirements or if there are flights but just an idea.

This would totally defeat the purpose of the quarantine being in place 😞

Why? The quarantine is imposed from the UK government because it perceives a risk in travellers arriving from red destinations bringing back a variant of concern. Other countries have different views. If you have been in Portugal for 11 days, the UK considers that you are no longer of sufficient risk of bringing back a variant of concern. Though note that a covid test is still required. 

It’s the same all over the world, different rules applied by different countries. 

So you don't perceive a risk from Covid at all?  All borders should simply remain open. 

A risk which would be significantly reduced by spending time outside of a red list country, and isolating at home on return if legally required. As above, completely within the rules, which are rules I would not suggest anyone breaks.

I've been clear in my view since the red list came in that flights should not be banned, people who have visited red list countries in the last 10 days should be obliged to enter by direct flights only and that the flight ban policy is going against what the government is trying to achieve. I know we are likely to disagree on this though.

I was questioning the underlying sentiment not the rules themselves.  Far too often we forget that other parts of the world aren't as fortunate as ourselves. Nor is the data anywhere as near as accurate or the same level of self discipline present. 

The govt does take into account a countries testing systems, genome sequencing ability, data accuracy etc.

tooldle

It is not clear from the first post, did the University at which the study is registered give authority for your wife to travel? My University insists contingency plan and funds are in place before authorising overseas travel, for exactly this reason. I’m raising this as you make no mention of support from the University.