Kitchen fitter cut new washing machine wire

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travis-powers said:

Your washing machine warranty is now void!
It should have a socket in an adjacent cupboard or a fused spur so it can be isolated in a hurry!
kitchens come under part p and your fitter should not be doing electrical work!

Kitchens haven't been a special location since 2013, so the same rules as anywhere else applies: new circuits and consumer units are notifiable, all other work is non-notifiable. 

https://www.niceic.com/Niceic.com/media/Schemes/NICEIC-Part-P-Updated-Factsheet.pdf

An experienced kitchen fitter or even a competent DIYer adding a couple of sockets and hardwiring appliances sounds fine. 

fenwick458

exactly how are the integrated appliances connected? they should be accessible, as in when an electrician comes to test the circuit when doing an EICR, it should be a simple 10 second job to open the adjacent cupboard door and unplug or switch off a fused spur. for freestanding appliances that can just be pulled forward it's ok to have the socket directly behind as it can just be pulled forward without having to dismantle a fitted kitchen

Moneygrabber89

Below is the set up. Can see washing machine. Cupboard next to is intregrated sink then all sockets in cupboard next to that as seen on pics 

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https://ibb.co/VmHqtdf
https://ibb.co/3S2pB05
https://ibb.co/cF7pL32

neilmcl

So, to confirm, what your installer has done, rather than create a hole big enough to pass the washing machine plug through the kitchen unit carcass to the sockets, he's simply cut the cable and added a connector to make it easier and extend the cable. I don't see any issues with this safety wise and there would/should be enough slack behind the machine to be able to pull it out if required anyway. I also don't see any issues regarding access to those plugs either.

It is possible that extending the power cable in this way has voided the warranty, you may have to check the T&Cs and speak to the manufacturer, however you still have your consumer rights to fall back on should there be an issue with the machine.

Risteard

travis-powers said:

Your washing machine warranty is now void!
It should have a socket in an adjacent cupboard or a fused spur so it can be isolated in a hurry!
kitchens come under part p and your fitter should not be doing electrical work!

Not true. Cutting off the plug top does not void the warranty so long as the work was done by a competent person.

neilmcl

Risteard said:

travis-powers said:

Your washing machine warranty is now void!
It should have a socket in an adjacent cupboard or a fused spur so it can be isolated in a hurry!
kitchens come under part p and your fitter should not be doing electrical work!

Not true. Cutting off the plug top does not void the warranty so long as the work was done by a competent person.

It entirely depends on the manufacturer. Most may not but I've known certain manufacturers, Bosch being one example, to do exactly that. Always best to check.

Risteard

neilmcl said:

Risteard said:

travis-powers said:

Your washing machine warranty is now void!
It should have a socket in an adjacent cupboard or a fused spur so it can be isolated in a hurry!
kitchens come under part p and your fitter should not be doing electrical work!

Not true. Cutting off the plug top does not void the warranty so long as the work was done by a competent person.

It entirely depends on the manufacturer. Most may not but I've known certain manufacturers, Bosch being one example, to do exactly that. Always best to check.

Not when you push them on the issue as it is in contravention of statutory rights. If someone who wasn't competent (e.g. not an Electrician) did it then there may be claim to invalidate the warranty, but otherwise not. This has been confirmed by countless manufacturers when pressed on the issue.

neilmcl

Risteard said:

neilmcl said:

Risteard said:

travis-powers said:

Your washing machine warranty is now void!
It should have a socket in an adjacent cupboard or a fused spur so it can be isolated in a hurry!
kitchens come under part p and your fitter should not be doing electrical work!

Not true. Cutting off the plug top does not void the warranty so long as the work was done by a competent person.

It entirely depends on the manufacturer. Most may not but I've known certain manufacturers, Bosch being one example, to do exactly that. Always best to check.

Not when you push them on the issue as it is in contravention of statutory rights. If someone who wasn't competent (e.g. not an Electrician) did it then there may be claim to invalidate the warranty, but otherwise not. This has been confirmed by countless manufacturers when pressed on the issue.

Care to show us which statutory rights this contravenes. A warranty is in addition to any statutory rights and can have pretty much any terms and conditions attached as far as the manufacturer's legal obligations are concerned.

travis-powers

Risteard said:

travis-powers said:

Your washing machine warranty is now void!
It should have a socket in an adjacent cupboard or a fused spur so it can be isolated in a hurry!
kitchens come under part p and your fitter should not be doing electrical work!

Not true. Cutting off the plug top does not void the warranty so long as the work was done by a competent person.

To be fair  in ops first post she said kitchen fitter not electrician, surly it’s better to drill a 75mm hole than have a sparky round every time an appliance needs changing?