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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,423 Forumite
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    Am I right in thinking that our only remaining option is Route 02 The no-nonsense approach – tell 'em you won't pay from this article?
    Please don't read the MSE article!  Absolutely dreadful advice there.

    Was the 3rd party mailing service The Delivery Group?  Sounds like the letters were not sent by that 3rd party.
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  • Am I right in thinking that our only remaining option is Route 02 The no-nonsense approach – tell 'em you won't pay from this article?
    Please don't read the MSE article!  Absolutely dreadful advice there.

    Was the 3rd party mailing service The Delivery Group?  Sounds like the letters were not sent by that 3rd party.

    Hello Coupon-Mad! You helped me get off a ticket about 12 years ago! So cool you're still on here, helping people. I tell people about you all the time haha. Thank you for all the amazing advice you give out :smile:

    The 3rd party mail service is called "Unity 5". I agree, I suspect that they didn't send the letters and that when the "debt collectors" sent them, they didn't use a 3rd party and so that's why I received them. Obviously I can't prove this. Or my other theory is that this is a new tactic to leverage more money out of people. Again, I can't prove this.

    Regardless, I can't appeal it now so I'm guessing that the next step is to wait for them to escalate it to court? Is it worth complaining to any governing body? The BPA?
  • Umkomaas
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    Is it worth complaining to any governing body? The BPA?
    There's no governing body, it's a totally unregulated sector - anything goes, with the motorist picking up the bill!

    If it were the BPA, it might have been worth an email, but this lot are IPC AOS members, so, nah, don't bother. Head and brick wall. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Umkomaas said:
    Is it worth complaining to any governing body? The BPA?
    There's no governing body, it's a totally unregulated sector - anything goes, with the motorist picking up the bill!

    If it were the BPA, it might have been worth an email, but this lot are IPC AOS members, so, nah, don't bother. Head and brick wall. 
    Hey Umkomaas, Thanks for the reply. Gotcha. So just sit back and wait for the court letter? IMO, no contract was formed. Our company vehicle was there for 8 minutes. The photo evidence doen't even show that the vehicle was outside of the bay but regardless, the tiny signage and the fact that it was only parked for 8 minutes should be enough to prove that no contract had been formed.


  • Umkomaas
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    Without a landowner cancellation, there's not much else you can do but see what NPE's next move is, then deal with that then.  
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • OK, cool, thanks for the reply. I will keep you updated on progress :)
  • Coupon-mad
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    Also, if you get a copy of the NTK as part of a SAR to NPE, you should check it for POFA compliant wording.  Maybe they can't hold the Ltd company liable anyway.

    Hello Coupon-Mad! You helped me get off a ticket about 12 years ago!
    Haha, I reckon I've been doing this about 14 years, so that was in the early days for me!
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  • Ranjanx
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    OK, cool, thanks for the reply. I will keep you updated on progress :)
    Hi OP. I know old thread but I find myself in a very similar position as you. I might end up starting a new thread with specifics of companies involved but just wanted to check if there was any update on your case ?
  • Umkomaas
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    The last time the OP even looked at the forum was well over 18 months ago. It's unlikely that he will ever see your query now. Send him a PM, that way he'll get an email alert from MSE - then hope he'll respond to you. But it's better you start a new thread of your own with details. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • KeithP
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    ... I will keep you updated on progress :)
    Looks like that was easily forgotten.  ;)
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