Crown Point Retail Park Leeds - UKPC fines for overstaying when you had actually left

stormprivate1982

I got a penalty notice last week saying I'd stayed for 4 hours when in fact I had been to the park 3 times that day once in the morning to drop off my heavily pregnant wife at work 10 mins, secondly over lunch to buy a new suit approx 30 mins and then the third time picking up the wife from work again 30 mins. Thanks to their ANPR camera's messing up the ticket says I arrived at 12.30 and left at 5.03. What is worse is I drive a company car and my company got the ticket and now I face a disciplinary hearing for gross misconduct abusing company time where I can lose my job. I have appealed to the parking company but will help my case with work if I can find others who have been in a similar situation?

Redx

Pedant mode , UKPC issue Parking Charge Notices , not Penalty notices

Double dipping cases like yours abound , anpr monitoring is only about 80% effective

The Edna basher advice at the bottom of the First post of the newbies FAQ sticky thread near the top of the forum in announcements is of great help with company vehicle issues

Umkomaas

What is worse is I drive a company car and my company got the ticket and now I face a disciplinary hearing for gross misconduct abusing company time where I can lose my job.

Do you mean that the company are swallowing that you were absent from work for the 4 hours UKPC allege the vehicle was parked there, or are they accepting your position of 3 separate visits which they say amount to 'abusing company time'?

stormprivate1982

Umkomaas said:

What is worse is I drive a company car and my company got the ticket and now I face a disciplinary hearing for gross misconduct abusing company time where I can lose my job.

Do you mean that the company are swallowing that you were absent from work for the 4 hours UKPC allege the vehicle was parked there, or are they accepting your position of 3 separate visits which they say amount to 'abusing company time'?

The company believe I was there shopping for a full 4 hours, despite me telling them this parking company is notorious for mistakes they haven't bothered to look into it and are proceeding with disciplinary next week so trying to gather as much evidence as possible.

Redx

Check if the vehicle has black box tracking for insurance purposes , or for company purposes, that tracking data is crucial to the case

Check the tracking for your mobile phone , especially if it's a company phone , again it could be crucial to your case

stormprivate1982

Redx said:

Check if the vehicle has black box tracking for insurance purposes , or for company purposes, that tracking data is crucial to the case

Check the tracking for your mobile phone , especially if it's a company phone , again it could be crucial to your case

No tracking for the car however hadn't thought about tracking for the phone thank you will check into that now

Half_way

if you have google maps and can log in on a pc (as its easier ) its under timeline.
If there was a case that deserved a GDPR  claim against both the landowner ( as principle) and the parking company (as agent) then this could / should be a very strong contender.

stormprivate1982

Half_way said:

if you have google maps and can log in on a pc (as its easier ) its under timeline.
If there was a case that deserved a GDPR  claim against both the landowner ( as principle) and the parking company (as agent) then this could / should be a very strong contender.

Cheers, unfortunately I have googlemaps but use the in car navigation if needed so I don't use my phones gps.

Half_way

the phone may have recorded the location either which way.

looking a little further, if I was in your situation I would be behind furious.
the fact that you face a disciplinary will have an effect on your employment, and under that threat I would be looking at substantial damages.

also look to see if crown point has had previous double dips.

stormprivate1982

Half_way said:

the phone may have recorded the location either which way.

looking a little further, if I was in your situation I would be behind furious.
the fact that you face a disciplinary will have an effect on your employment, and under that threat I would be looking at substantial damages.

also look to see if crown point has had previous double dips.

I've checked the googlemaps and nothing, pretty sure I disabled the facebook tracking a while ago but will check that too.
I was beyond furious mate and looking for any legal case I can raise against the company even if I'm cleared. 
Cheers

beamerguy

Double dipping is common .... just another flaw for UKPC on top of them faking pictures

Your employer should be on your side and not that of a well known scammer like UKPC