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Is there a really detailed online method to check NICs?

buglawton
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This check https://www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record only tells you if years are complete or not. This matters when checking your state pension eligibility.
I'm going through my & wifes records online and called HMRC about some discrepancies. They don't seem to be able to go into any details but one HMRC helpdesk person said there was a more detailed record available online, but they couldn't remember where. I'm looking to confirm which employers stopped/started paying my NIC and when. I've hunted for such a thing and not been able to find it so far.
Has anyone heard of such details being available online via a government website?
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  • nigelbb
    nigelbb Posts: 3,816 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    buglawton said:
    This check https://www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record only tells you if years are complete or not. This matters when checking your state pension eligibility.
    I'm going through my & wifes records online and called HMRC about some discrepancies. They don't seem to be able to go into any details but one HMRC helpdesk person said there was a more detailed record available online, but they couldn't remember where. I'm looking to confirm which employers stopped/started paying my NIC and when. I've hunted for such a thing and not been able to find it so far.
    Has anyone heard of such details being available online via a government website?
    Try this: https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/shortforms/form/DPU_SAR_NI?_ga=2.230026460.1544670040.1621021753-1315656139.1609178084
    Wow! I have never seen that link before. I have just submitted a request. It will be interesting to see how detailed the information is.
  • Notepad_Phil
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    nigelbb said:
    Marcon said:
    buglawton said:
    This check https://www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record only tells you if years are complete or not. This matters when checking your state pension eligibility.
    I'm going through my & wifes records online and called HMRC about some discrepancies. They don't seem to be able to go into any details but one HMRC helpdesk person said there was a more detailed record available online, but they couldn't remember where. I'm looking to confirm which employers stopped/started paying my NIC and when. I've hunted for such a thing and not been able to find it so far.
    Has anyone heard of such details being available online via a government website?
    Try this: https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/shortforms/form/DPU_SAR_NI?_ga=2.230026460.1544670040.1621021753-1315656139.1609178084
    Wow! I have never seen that link before. I have just submitted a request. It will be interesting to see how detailed the information is.
    It would be great if you could report back the kind of info it does give.
  • Marcon
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    nigelbb said:
    Marcon said:
    buglawton said:
    This check https://www.gov.uk/check-national-insurance-record only tells you if years are complete or not. This matters when checking your state pension eligibility.
    I'm going through my & wifes records online and called HMRC about some discrepancies. They don't seem to be able to go into any details but one HMRC helpdesk person said there was a more detailed record available online, but they couldn't remember where. I'm looking to confirm which employers stopped/started paying my NIC and when. I've hunted for such a thing and not been able to find it so far.
    Has anyone heard of such details being available online via a government website?
    Try this: https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/shortforms/form/DPU_SAR_NI?_ga=2.230026460.1544670040.1621021753-1315656139.1609178084
    Wow! I have never seen that link before. I have just submitted a request. It will be interesting to see how detailed the information is.
    It would be great if you could report back the kind of info it does give.
    What would be really good news is if the info gives the identity of pension companies which received NI rebates when endless tiny 'appropriate' personal pensions were set up on a rebate-only basis from 1988 on, and people have lost track of who their provider was. 

    I'm waiting for a reply to my request for information and will happily post what I get, unless nigelbb gets his response before me.

    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • Marcon
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    Update: just received a letter from HMRC explaining that my request is classed as a 'complex' request and they will not be able to meet their normal Subject Access Request turnaround time of a month. They aim to reply by 7 August 2021.

    Wonder how @nigelbb is faring?
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • JoeCrystal
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    edited 22 May 2021 at 4:51PM
    That's interesting! More likely that you got added to the queue with the rest of SARs? They do have a SAR team but I won't be surprised if it is only a handful of staffs
  • what-a-save
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    I would suggest ‘nigelbb’ that you put aside some quiet time when you receive the requested SAR. 
    I made a request earlier this year and subsequently received 135 double sided pages of information !!
    It will include limited detail of previous employers, earnings, contributions etc. 
    It will also include details of your bank accounts and interest paid !!
    it was quite an eye opener for me. 
  • Marcon
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    I would suggest ‘nigelbb’ that you put aside some quiet time when you receive the requested SAR. 
    I made a request earlier this year and subsequently received 135 double sided pages of information !!
    It will include limited detail of previous employers, earnings, contributions etc. 
    It will also include details of your bank accounts and interest paid !!
    it was quite an eye opener for me. 
    What was the basis of your request - full info about what HMRC holds on you, or simply(!) a lengthy history relating just to National Insurance?
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • what-a-save
    what-a-save Posts: 55 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    I would suggest ‘nigelbb’ that you put aside some quiet time when you receive the requested SAR. 
    I made a request earlier this year and subsequently received 135 double sided pages of information !!
    It will include limited detail of previous employers, earnings, contributions etc. 
    It will also include details of your bank accounts and interest paid !!
    it was quite an eye opener for me. 
    What was the basis of your request - full info about what HMRC holds on you, or simply(!) a lengthy history relating just to National Insurance?
    The request was regarding National Insurance with a view to establishing details of a particular tax year, where records do not appear correct. 
  • Marcon
    Marcon Posts: 12,912 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    I would suggest ‘nigelbb’ that you put aside some quiet time when you receive the requested SAR. 
    I made a request earlier this year and subsequently received 135 double sided pages of information !!
    It will include limited detail of previous employers, earnings, contributions etc. 
    It will also include details of your bank accounts and interest paid !!
    it was quite an eye opener for me. 
    What was the basis of your request - full info about what HMRC holds on you, or simply(!) a lengthy history relating just to National Insurance?
    The request was regarding National Insurance with a view to establishing details of a particular tax year, where records do not appear correct. 
    Thank you...can't wait!!
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
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