Travel in Schengen area for more than 90 days

KATEANDMARK

We have a motorhome and pre pandemic we spent 2 months in Italy and France in September and October and  France and Spain in January and February. We want to do the same again possibly not this year.  Obviously this is greater than 90 days in a 180 day period. Is this still possible. Websites talk of visa but I am unclear about whether we need one for every country or is there an EU one? I have also read that we may need to show that we have a certain level of income but this is not clear, also I have seen comments which suggest that we have to provide details of our accommodation but we never know and have only a rough plan. Any information gratefully received thank you

eDicky

The UK is now one of the many non-EU countries who do not require a visa for a stay of up to 90 days in any 180 day period, so what you propose is not officially possible without obtaining a visa.

A Schengen visa can be issued by any of the EU states included in the Schengen agreement and covers travel throughout those states, which includes those you are likely to visit. You would need to provide the information required, but probably you can specify that it's a tour by motorhome, perhaps mentioning a hotel or campsite you are likely to stay at in the country to which you apply for the visa.

Please update us with how it turns out if you go ahead with (or without) obtaining a visa,  it may well be useful for others.

sheramber

https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/apply-from-uk/

Caz3121

worth also reading the details of the visa to ensure the correct one
this article points to the Schengen tourist visa also being 90 days max in a 180 day period
https://www.seville-traveller.com/schengen-tourist-visa/
"For non-Schengen citizens, the entrance is only valid for 90 days (50% of the time in the Schengen Area) within a period of 180 days (6 months). While these days are not necessarily consecutive, they are cumulative."

CKhalvashi

What you propose will not be possible, as the clock starts on the first day you enter.

At the simplest breakdown, you can spend 60 days in Schengen, 30 out, and then 30 in, but then must spend 60 days outside before entering again, obviously subject to having funds and immigration being happy you will leave.

You cannot spend 120-ish days in 180 within the Schengen area (assuming 2 full months each time) without a visa or residency permit, and should apply in the country that you intend to spend most time in, meeting the immigration requirements of that state, and cannot spend more than 90 in 180 in the other Schengen countries combined.

A quick browse of the links above tells me they will give you more information on the specifics than a general forum can provide.

AMCC

I have a similar situation to the original poster and, although I have trawled through various visa websites, I have been unable to work out what to do. We want to spend 2 periods each of 60 days in Portugal within a 180 day period.  Is it possible to go on the first trip (60 days), return home for a spell and then go on the second trip and apply for a visa extension for that second visit?  Do you apply in this country before you travel or when you are away?  Or, is it possible to get a Type D visa on the grounds of tourism? Very grateful for any clarification.  Many thanks.

brianposter

My understanding is that "tourists" simply cannot spend more than 90 days in the Schengen area at any one time.

If you wish to spend more than 90 days you have to get yourself defined in some other way - student, worker, prosperous person, or "resident" where "resident" seems to involve some period of residence and satisfying some financial requirements.

sheramber

• https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/portugal/entry-requirements
  
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• to stay longer, to work or study, for business travel or for other reasons, you will need to meet the Portuguese government’s entry requirements. Check the Portuguese Immigration Service (scroll to the bottom of the page) and check with the Portuguese Embassy what type of visa and/or work permit you may need.

i think you need to apply for a long stay or residence visa but you would need to qualify for one.

bigfer

Out of interest, what would happen to you if you naively overstayed or miss
-calculated your time spent in the EU and pitched up at the airport say a couple of days over the 90?

Doshwaster

bigfer said:

Out of interest, what would happen to you if you naively overstayed or miss
-calculated your time spent in the EU and pitched up at the airport say a couple of days over the 90?

From what I hear the enforcement of the 90 day rule can vary between countries and what mood the immigration officer is in that day. Consequences could vary from nothing at all or a warning to a fine to a ban on re-entry. 

Basically, don't risk it. Claiming naivety of the rules is never a good defence. 

bigfer

Assuming at some point travel through Europe becomes unrestricted, does anyone know of a simple/accurate calculator to allow planning of multiple entries into Schengen countries?
I have tried a couple online, but don't have any confidence in them as they seemed to contradict each other and have the "don't blame us if it all goes wrong" disclaimer.
Is there not a Government Approved one?. (Oh my sides, sorry). TIA.