Heat detector driving me mad

Sotts

Hi.  In my open plan living room/kitchen i have a heat detector directly above the cooker (don't ask🥱. As well as smoke alarms in the living room and throughout the flat.

I can't even make toast without the heat detector going off which in turn sets off all the smoke alarms going off.  
Any ideas how to disconnect the heat detector.  Its an Aico Ei44RC.    It has a test/hush button but nothing other than waving tea towels under one of the smoke alarms will stop it.
Slowly going crazy 

grumbler

Sotts said:

Any ideas how to disconnect the heat detector.

What's the problem with JUST disconnecting (and terminating) the mains wires and removing the backup battery?

Sotts

grumbler said:

Sotts said:

Any ideas how to disconnect the heat detector.

What's the problem with JUST disconnecting (and terminating) the mains wires and removing the backup battery?

Only my lack of knowledge of how to do this and how this would affect the rest of the alarms which are all connected

Apodemus

According to the website, that alarm should trigger at 58C, so either it is faulty or you are getting serious heat at that point in your kitchen.  I'd start by checking the temperature at it's location, but I can't see how you would be getting that temperature at ceiling level from your toaster - is it setting off a different smoke-detecting alarm?

The alarm apparently is a slide fit on an "easi-fit" base, so should be easy to replace.  Comes with a five-year guarantee, so you may be able to send it back to be checked over by the manufacturer.  Perhaps it would be worth giving them a call to discuss your problems. 

Rodders53

Read the flippin manual - it tells you what to do, and any consequences (none, other than possibly slightly reduced fire safety)?
https://www.aico.co.uk/product/ei144rc-heat-alarm/ (Downloads Tab) Page 11 is how to remove it etc.,.

Ideally it needs relocating further from the cooker, probably.  THAT may need an electrician to do safely.

grumbler

Apodemus said:

According to the website, that alarm should trigger at 58C, so either it is faulty or you are getting serious heat at that point in your kitchen. 

58C is nowhere near 'serious heat', especially near a cooker or a toaster. In a dry sauna it's often more than 100C.

grumbler

Sotts said:

grumbler said:

Sotts said:

Any ideas how to disconnect the heat detector.

What's the problem with JUST disconnecting (and terminating) the mains wires and removing the backup battery?

... and how this would affect the rest of the alarms which are all connected

The manual says

The Ei140RC series may be interconnected with any  other Ei Electronics RadioLINK or RadioLINK + products through fiiting onto an Ei168RC RadioLINK Base. This base will enable the Ei140RC series Alarms to communicate RF messages to other Ei Electronics products such as the Ei450 RadioLINK Alarm Controller ...

My understanding is that if you disconnect it, it stops sending signals. That's it.

GDB2222

I've had to relocate heat detectors installed in the wrong place by professionals. 

Sotts

Rodders53 said:

Read the flippin manual - it tells you what to do, and any consequences (none, other than possibly slightly reduced fire safety)?
https://www.aico.co.uk/product/ei144rc-heat-alarm/ (Downloads Tab) Page 11 is how to remove it etc.,.

Ideally it needs relocating further from the cooker, probably.  THAT may need an electrician to do safely.

Read the flippin manual.  Silly me why didn't i think of that.  Oh yes i did read it
I know about the 58 degrees.  Nothing in my kitchen generates that much heat.
The manual tells me how to change the battery not how to disconnect it.  Even if i remove the battery it still has mains.
I was asking if i can disconnect it without affecting the other alarms.

I'll contact an electrician.  

Sotts

GDB2222 said:

I've had to relocate heat detectors installed in the wrong place by professionals. 

Thanks.  Goodness knows why it's there with a smoke alarm 3 meters away 

Apodemus

grumbler said:

Apodemus said:

According to the website, that alarm should trigger at 58C, so either it is faulty or you are getting serious heat at that point in your kitchen. 

58C is nowhere near 'serious heat', especially near a cooker or a toaster. In a dry sauna it's often more than 100C.

Well yes...but presumably the manufacturers have chosen that temperature as a suitable compromise between reasonably expected room temperatures and the sort of heat that potentially indicates the presence of a fire.  And I still think that a good starting point is to find out whether that sort of temperature is indeed being reached where the device is fitted, so that the best course of action can be determined - which might be using a detector with a higher threshold temperature, switching to a flash sensitive device, or re-locating the detector to a different part of the kitchen.