Leaving current job in 2 weeks, new employer hasn't sent contract or confirmation of role

ukblogger

Hello MSE'ers!
Should I be worried here?
I recently accepted a job with another company, and put my month's notice in my current role. I'm due to leave in 2 weeks but haven't had any contract or confirmation that I'm due to start at the new place, and they've gone completely silent, not responding to emails or phone calls. Prior to this, I was in regular contact with the HR team there, but now everything has gone quiet. I had an email with the offer a few weeks ago which I accepted, but since then nothing has happened. I can't be out of work as, like everyone else, I've got bills to pay, and a family to support, so am worried that if I leave my current job, I'll be out of work completely.

I have an email after my interviews with an offer, job title, salary but other than that I have nothing.
I can probably stay in my current job if I spoke to them, but when do I give it till to sort that with my current job, if I've got 2 weeks left before I leave?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

[Deleted User]

Every job (with the exception only of an Agency placement) I’ve had this year 2021 I’ve never received a contract until in and started, I don’t understand it myself but it’s because the Employer has 2 months from starting to produce this. Or default to verbal.
Started my current job, as much as their nice people, took a week for me to say do you want my ID !? and by the way I’ve to declare this role to JobCentre - they then asked for bank details and mumbled again the contract is still being put together, eeek!.
Sadly in this day and age, it isn’t unusual to have to chase how ever many times it takes if you really do want to see the contract in advance.

ukblogger

Deleted User said:

Every job (with the exception only of an Agency placement) I’ve had this year 2021 I’ve never received a contract until in and started, I don’t understand it myself but it’s because the Employer has 2 months from starting to produce this. Or default to verbal.
Started my current job, as much as their nice people, took a week for me to say do you want my ID !? and by the way I’ve to declare this role to JobCentre - they then asked for bank details and mumbled again the contract is still being put together, eeek!.
Sadly in this day and age, it isn’t unusual to have to chase how ever many times it takes if you really do want to see the contract in advance.

Thanks for the reply. In the past I've always had them in advance, and these new employers said I'd have it in 2 working days, but that was a couple of weeks ago now, and they've just gone quiet on all forms of communication.

Undervalued

ukblogger said:

Hello MSE'ers!
Should I be worried here?
I recently accepted a job with another company, and put my month's notice in my current role. I'm due to leave in 2 weeks but haven't had any contract or confirmation that I'm due to start at the new place, and they've gone completely silent, not responding to emails or phone calls. Prior to this, I was in regular contact with the HR team there, but now everything has gone quiet. I had an email with the offer a few weeks ago which I accepted, but since then nothing has happened. I can't be out of work as, like everyone else, I've got bills to pay, and a family to support, so am worried that if I leave my current job, I'll be out of work completely.

I have an email after my interviews with an offer, job title, salary but other than that I have nothing.
I can probably stay in my current job if I spoke to them, but when do I give it till to sort that with my current job, if I've got 2 weeks left before I leave?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

The offer and your acceptance by email has established a contract on whatever terms were advertised or have been negotiated. However that only gives you very limited protection. If they no longer want you then all they need to do is give you whatever notice has been agreed. If nothing has been agreed it would generally be assumed to be on their normal terms. So if it was a month's notice given today all it would entitle you to is two weeks pay (from your start date until the end of the month's notice). You have virtually no protection beyond that with any new job unless very special and unusual terms have been agreed (normally only happens in "head hunting" situations).

So, I would make every effort to clarify the situation ano / or attempt to withdraw your notice from you current firm. Sadly they don't have to agree to this, it is down to their goodwill.

ukblogger

Undervalued said:

ukblogger said:

Hello MSE'ers!
Should I be worried here?
I recently accepted a job with another company, and put my month's notice in my current role. I'm due to leave in 2 weeks but haven't had any contract or confirmation that I'm due to start at the new place, and they've gone completely silent, not responding to emails or phone calls. Prior to this, I was in regular contact with the HR team there, but now everything has gone quiet. I had an email with the offer a few weeks ago which I accepted, but since then nothing has happened. I can't be out of work as, like everyone else, I've got bills to pay, and a family to support, so am worried that if I leave my current job, I'll be out of work completely.

I have an email after my interviews with an offer, job title, salary but other than that I have nothing.
I can probably stay in my current job if I spoke to them, but when do I give it till to sort that with my current job, if I've got 2 weeks left before I leave?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

The offer and your acceptance by email has established a contract on whatever terms were advertised or have been negotiated. However that only gives you very limited protection. If they no longer want you then all they need to do is give you whatever notice has been agreed. If nothing has been agreed it would generally be assumed to be on their normal terms. So if it was a month's notice given today all it would entitle you to is two weeks pay (from your start date until the end of the month's notice). You have virtually no protection beyond that with any new job unless very special and unusual terms have been agreed (normally only happens in "head hunting" situations).

So, I would make every effort to clarify the situation ano / or attempt to withdraw your notice from you current firm. Sadly they don't have to agree to this, it is down to their goodwill.

Thank you for the reply. My employer would probably let me withdraw my notice, just didn't know how long to give it with the new employer before doing so. I've tried reaching out again to them this morning over phone and email but haven't had a reply.  

Undervalued

ukblogger said:

Undervalued said:

ukblogger said:

Hello MSE'ers!
Should I be worried here?
I recently accepted a job with another company, and put my month's notice in my current role. I'm due to leave in 2 weeks but haven't had any contract or confirmation that I'm due to start at the new place, and they've gone completely silent, not responding to emails or phone calls. Prior to this, I was in regular contact with the HR team there, but now everything has gone quiet. I had an email with the offer a few weeks ago which I accepted, but since then nothing has happened. I can't be out of work as, like everyone else, I've got bills to pay, and a family to support, so am worried that if I leave my current job, I'll be out of work completely.

I have an email after my interviews with an offer, job title, salary but other than that I have nothing.
I can probably stay in my current job if I spoke to them, but when do I give it till to sort that with my current job, if I've got 2 weeks left before I leave?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

The offer and your acceptance by email has established a contract on whatever terms were advertised or have been negotiated. However that only gives you very limited protection. If they no longer want you then all they need to do is give you whatever notice has been agreed. If nothing has been agreed it would generally be assumed to be on their normal terms. So if it was a month's notice given today all it would entitle you to is two weeks pay (from your start date until the end of the month's notice). You have virtually no protection beyond that with any new job unless very special and unusual terms have been agreed (normally only happens in "head hunting" situations).

So, I would make every effort to clarify the situation ano / or attempt to withdraw your notice from you current firm. Sadly they don't have to agree to this, it is down to their goodwill.

Thank you for the reply. My employer would probably let me withdraw my notice, just didn't know how long to give it with the new employer before doing so. I've tried reaching out again to them this morning over phone and email but haven't had a reply.  

Assuming you have tried more than just one person's direct line and email it is difficult to avoid the suspicion that they have changed their mind - or gone bust!

Is it a very small company? if so then maybe it is just inefficiency or a key person off sick but otherwise I would try to ensure you can stay put if at all possible. 

ukblogger

Undervalued said:

ukblogger said:

Undervalued said:

ukblogger said:

Hello MSE'ers!
Should I be worried here?
I recently accepted a job with another company, and put my month's notice in my current role. I'm due to leave in 2 weeks but haven't had any contract or confirmation that I'm due to start at the new place, and they've gone completely silent, not responding to emails or phone calls. Prior to this, I was in regular contact with the HR team there, but now everything has gone quiet. I had an email with the offer a few weeks ago which I accepted, but since then nothing has happened. I can't be out of work as, like everyone else, I've got bills to pay, and a family to support, so am worried that if I leave my current job, I'll be out of work completely.

I have an email after my interviews with an offer, job title, salary but other than that I have nothing.
I can probably stay in my current job if I spoke to them, but when do I give it till to sort that with my current job, if I've got 2 weeks left before I leave?

Any advice is appreciated, thank you.

The offer and your acceptance by email has established a contract on whatever terms were advertised or have been negotiated. However that only gives you very limited protection. If they no longer want you then all they need to do is give you whatever notice has been agreed. If nothing has been agreed it would generally be assumed to be on their normal terms. So if it was a month's notice given today all it would entitle you to is two weeks pay (from your start date until the end of the month's notice). You have virtually no protection beyond that with any new job unless very special and unusual terms have been agreed (normally only happens in "head hunting" situations).

So, I would make every effort to clarify the situation ano / or attempt to withdraw your notice from you current firm. Sadly they don't have to agree to this, it is down to their goodwill.

Thank you for the reply. My employer would probably let me withdraw my notice, just didn't know how long to give it with the new employer before doing so. I've tried reaching out again to them this morning over phone and email but haven't had a reply.  

Assuming you have tried more than just one person's direct line and email it is difficult to avoid the suspicion that they have changed their mind - or gone bust!

Is it a very small company? if so then maybe it is just inefficiency or a key person off sick but otherwise I would try to ensure you can stay put if at all possible. 

It's a huge firm, they've definitely not gone bust (or its going to make big news!). Ill give it a few more days and if not heard anything ill follow up again.

Thanks again for the replies, really appreciate it

TELLIT01

If the new employer is local to you I would call round if only to check that there are still signs of life there.

General_Grant

Deleted User said:

Every job (with the exception only of an Agency placement) I’ve had this year 2021 I’ve never received a contract until in and started, I don’t understand it myself but it’s because the Employer has 2 months from starting to produce this. Or default to verbal.
Started my current job, as much as their nice people, took a week for me to say do you want my ID !? and by the way I’ve to declare this role to JobCentre - they then asked for bank details and mumbled again the contract is still being put together, eeek!.
Sadly in this day and age, it isn’t unusual to have to chase how ever many times it takes if you really do want to see the contract in advance.

You are behind the times - written particulars of employment now have to be provided on or before the first day of employment.

Undervalued

General_Grant said:

Deleted User said:

Every job (with the exception only of an Agency placement) I’ve had this year 2021 I’ve never received a contract until in and started, I don’t understand it myself but it’s because the Employer has 2 months from starting to produce this. Or default to verbal.
Started my current job, as much as their nice people, took a week for me to say do you want my ID !? and by the way I’ve to declare this role to JobCentre - they then asked for bank details and mumbled again the contract is still being put together, eeek!.
Sadly in this day and age, it isn’t unusual to have to chase how ever many times it takes if you really do want to see the contract in advance.

You are behind the times - written particulars of employment now have to be provided on or before the first day of employment.

Yes but there is still no useful redress if they don't do it under most circumstances.

k3lvc

It's a huge firm, they've definitely not gone bust (or its going to make big news!). Ill give it a few more days and if not heard anything ill follow up again.

Thanks again for the replies, really appreciate it

I suspect this is currently the most important thing going on in your life - personally I'd be ringing until I did get to speak to someone - 'leaving it a few days' doesn't seem very sensible ?