Concerned at mixing after only 1st jab

elsien

Vegastare said:

She had her second jab last Thursday....yes I am worried about me....I am asthmatic and have done my very best to keep safe.

Having asthma, in and of itself, does not automatically put you at higher risk. You may have the severe sort which needs hospital admissions, but just for context my 82 year old  parent who also has asthma did not meet the criteria for needing to shield and has been carefully going to the shops, the gym and for trips out for months,  since the guidelines allowed her to do so, with no ill effects and without contracting the virus. 

Shielding isn't considered to be necessary any more; studies have shown there is minimal risk of transmission by touching objects in a day to day setting such as when shopping and if she follows the guidelines with regards to handwashing, face coverings and social distancing, the chances of her contracting and passing on covid to you are very low indeed. 
Additionally, the first dose of the vaccine is considered to give a good rate of protection on its own. 

You say MIL has been careful - there is no reason to think she won't continue to be so. 
If you are still worried then ask her not to come into your house, but now might be a good time to start to relax some of the restrictions you've all been living under.

gettingtheresometime

macman said:

gettingtheresometime said:

OP

Which one did you have ? I'm only asking as the experts, and not Dot from down the road or on social media, have stated that the effectiveness is quite high even after having the first dose - eg Pfzir has been reported as 85% effective after the 1st dose.

It's irrelevant. MIL will either contract it, or she won't. and the OP will potentially be infected, or she won't. You can't be 85% infected. 

I appreciate that but I was trying to put the risk into context for the OP 

68ComebackSpecial

OP - if you're really concerned then why not order boxes of lateral flow tests for yourself and your MIL? Testing might go some way to alleviate your anxiety.

TBagpuss

OP, I'm sorry this is causing you such stress.

If it helps, there is some evidence that having the vaccine reduces the risk of transmitting the virus (do MIL is less likely to spread it to you, as well as being much less likely to catch it) and that even one dose offers a significant level of protection, so you are much less at risk then if neither you or your MIL were unvaccinated.

You can look at ways of reducing that risk further - for instance,

- talk to MIL to confirm that she is still wearing a mask whenever she goes out, and maintaining distance. Expalin that you aren't yet fully vaccinated and are still very anxious,

- if she visits, spend time outside as much as practical, and open windows frequently when you are inside - even if it's for 10 minutes or so every hour while you're in the same room

- send off for lateral flow tests https://www.gov.uk/order-coronavirus-rapid-lateral-flow-tests and ask your MIL to take one before she visits (or as soon as she arrives, on the basis that you both wear a mask (except when actually taking the swab) until you get the result)

poppy12345

A friend of my daughters had been shielding since the first lockdown because she's CEV. She had her first vaccine (not sure which one) just over 3 weeks later her son got Covid, then his father got it and then the person who's CEV got it. They all live together.

She was taken to hospital as a precaution on day 8. Thankfully she got through it and is now doing well. She was told by a Consultant that the vaccine saved her life and if she hadn't had it then it would have been a totally different story.

I had totally forgotten about this which is why i didn't mention it in my previous comment.

wannabe_a_saver

Vegastare said:

sammyjammy said:

You say she is expecting to stay this weekend?  At your house?  Have you done this before?

Yes she is living alone and hubby and I are her support and she has been in our support bubble, she or us have never ventured in anyone else home.  We have followed the guideance.

All of us have had AZ vacs

I think its great that she has felt able to go out and about a bit and do something that makes her feel good. 

It won't have been an easy year for her living alone, even with a support bubble. 

PixelPound

macman said:

gettingtheresometime said:

OP

Which one did you have ? I'm only asking as the experts, and not Dot from down the road or on social media, have stated that the effectiveness is quite high even after having the first dose - eg Pfzir has been reported as 85% effective after the 1st dose.

It's irrelevant. MIL will either contract it, or she won't. and the OP will potentially be infected, or she won't. You can't be 85% infected. 

How many times do you get people on here saying they had 85%, 90% etc acceptance rate on a CC and still get rejected. You can be 85% covered and still catch it.

They do say though that after one jab if you do catch it, it should be mild and not require hospitalisation.

silvercar

Agree with others, lateral flow tests are the way to go. They aren't foolproof but should pick up those with a high viral load, which are the cases more likely to infect others.

JamoLew

silvercar said:

Agree with others, lateral flow tests are the way to go. They aren't foolproof but should pick up those with a high viral load, which are the cases more likely to infect others.

Whilst they are the easiest test to self administer and give a reasonably fast result - there must be a reason that hospitals are ditching these in favour of weekly LAMP tests

I agree that LFT are probably the way forward for rapid/mass testing and to unlock mass live events for us again

Jeremy535897

The problem can be that they overestimate positive cases. Even with a stated accuracy for positive results of 99.68%, as claimed, out of every 1 million people tested, that means 3,200 false positives. The current estimated rate of infections is 2,500 per million. Add to that the accuracy of negative results being only 76.8%, and you can read too much into testing.