PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Sale fallen through but vendor using our survey

We have recently shared our full structural survey with the sellers as there were a number of issues and we wanted to renegotiate the price.

The sellers were not prepared to accept the findings of the survey in respect of renegotiating the price and the sale has now fallen through.

However their EA has advised that they are now working through the work identified with a view to relisting the property at a higher asking price as a result.

Do we have any recourse given they are using the findings of the survey we provided and paid for - particularly as they using it not for the purpose it was initially shared for.

Thanks
«13

Comments

  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 26,099 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    No. Not a chance. 

    They can’t sue the surveyor if he made a mistake, but they can certainly do the work he recommended. 
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • Sorry to hear your sale has fallen through.

    I don't think there is anything you can do as you shared the survey with them, as frustrating as it is that you paid for it and they may make more money from it.
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Does not the copyright reside with the surveyor? The surveyor in effect licences the survey to the OP. 
    The surveyor is only liable to the customer who has commissioned the survey, not to anyone else who might lose money as a result of action taken upon reading it.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • Tiglet2
    Tiglet2 Posts: 2,651 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 25 April 2021 at 10:10AM
    You should have only showed the vendors (or in fact your solicitor, so they could raise enquiries with the vendor's solicitor) certain extracts from the survey.  The survey was yours and you should not have showed them the entire document.  At least you now know that for next time!
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    macman said:
    Does not the copyright reside with the surveyor? The surveyor in effect licences the survey to the OP. 
    The surveyor is only liable to the customer who has commissioned the survey, not to anyone else who might lose money as a result of action taken upon reading it.
    So what if it does?

    The surveyor may, perhaps, have a case for breach of licence against the OP, but - in practice - it's utterly irrelevant and they simply won't bother.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Tiglet2 said:
    You should have only showed the vendors (or in fact your solicitor, so they could raise enquiries with the vendor's solicitor) certain extracts from the survey.  The survey was yours and you should not have showed them the entire document.  At least you now know that for next time!
    It doesn't sound as if they're even relying particularly on the details or waving the survey at other parties, just taking action based on the knowledge that e.g. there is subsidence needing fixed - does the OP expect them to pretend they don't know?
  • youth_leader
    youth_leader Posts: 2,901 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    I gave the full structural survey I'd commissioned on my listed house to my sole agent to help her answer questions about the obvious works that needed doing. 

    I was shocked and embarrassed to discover she'd given a copy to every single viewer - all fifteen of them - plus she'd emailed it to interested parties.  My surveyor lives locally, I see him when I'm walking my dog,  and the survey did have a confidentiality clause.  Once I knew I asked her to delete it from her system, and had to trust that she did.  

    I did like this agent but she couldn't afford to advertise on RightMove so I moved to a new estate agent.  I told them I had a full structural survey available and would share extracts if necessary,  but still had a buyer insisting his survey revealed 'beetles' amongst many other things my survey hadn't mentioned,  and the estate agent seemed to be backing him up.  I found it frustrating as I knew they had been treated and were dead, I wish now that I'd asked to see his survey.  
    £216 saved 24 October 2014
  • Mickey666
    Mickey666 Posts: 2,834 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Photogenic First Anniversary Name Dropper
    loubwhyte said:
    We have recently shared our full structural survey with the sellers as there were a number of issues and we wanted to renegotiate the price.

    The sellers were not prepared to accept the findings of the survey in respect of renegotiating the price and the sale has now fallen through.

    However their EA has advised that they are now working through the work identified with a view to relisting the property at a higher asking price as a result.

    Do we have any recourse given they are using the findings of the survey we provided and paid for - particularly as they using it not for the purpose it was initially shared for.

    What recourse would you like to have?

    Did you agree with them any conditions for sharing the survey report?  I suspect not, therefore they can do what they like with the knowledge you freely gave them.

    I can't see the problem here.  You paid for a survey that pointed out various property defects.  Despite this, the seller decided not to reduce their asking price, which they have every right to do, so you walked away from the deal.  The survey results have saved you a lot of potential future problems had you bought the house so it was money well spent.  It's just part of the cost of finding and buying a suitable house.

    It's also just part of selling a house.  Potential purchasers will give all manner of feedback to a seller, mostly verbal but in this case you freely chose to share the survey report.  Either way, your feedback (and perhaps others) has persuaded the seller to improve their house before trying to sell again.  This is a perfectly normal and reasonable response from a seller who could not get their asking price with the house in its current state.

    You've 'dodged a bullet' with this property, just move on and seek another one.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.6K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.7K Life & Family
  • 256.7K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.