DCBL letter of Claim

imgnawinn

First of all I'd like to apologise for starting a new thread I have read all the previous threads and there is different information on each thread which I don't think may apply to me.

I would highly appreciate if you could point me in the right direction as I do need help in what to do and the steps to follow.

To confirm I have received a bulk to letters from DCBL - Letter of claim from elite parking management 

They are all dated 31st March 2021

1. FE06 *** - £680 - REGISTERED KEEPER
2. YC19 *** - £170 - RENTAL
3. K11 *** - £170 - REGISTERED KEEPER
4. K11 *** - £170 - REGISTERED KEEPER
5. K11 *** - £170 - NAME SPELT INCORRECTLY 

This is a residential car park I have used nearly all my driving life for over 10 years and never got a ticket, I do remember bwlegal sending me letters but looks like dcbl have now taken over. Signage is not so clear in the carpark, I do know they have some now as I have checked, but before this is was not clear at all and all the residents do use this carpark without paying.

I'm not saying I don't owe this money but I do think they have put in double charges and only now threatening me as they have many cases on me now.

I would really appreciate my next steps, I have ignored all other letters and not replied or called them in regards to this so I'm completely fresh.

I have read I need to file a SAR but if you could point me in the right direction as to where to find templates I would very much appreciate it.

I have seen others on here not listening to your advice and doing something completely different. I can guarantee you I will take on any advice given to me on here and follow every step that you say.

Please help me as I can't afford to pay all these fines and can't afford another ccj.

Hope your all are well and please let me know how to proceed, I will also keep you updated with any updates 

Umkomaas

Is the £680 the sum of the four figures shown below it, or an additional amount?

What is meant by 'Rental'?
What is the context of 'Name spelled incorrectly'?

You can find a very detailed guide to dealing with a formal Letter Before Claim in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, second post. You will also find links to the SAR template there. 

Do you own, lease or rent your property?  What do your ownership/rental legal documents say about your parking rights?

beamerguy

They are all dated 31st March 2021

1. FE06 *** - £680 - REGISTERED KEEPER
2. YC19 *** - £170 - RENTAL
3. K11 *** - £170 - REGISTERED KEEPER
4. K11 *** - £170 - REGISTERED KEEPER
5. K11 *** - £170 - NAME SPELT INCORRECTLY 

On number 2 ... do you mean a rental car

ALL CHARGES CLAIMED BY DCBL ARE FAKE.   THEY ADD FAKE £70.   

Have you any idea when these tickets are dated/issued ?

1: As these letters are "letters before claim" you need to respond.  Quote all 5 letters in one to condense 
this otherwise you will get bogged down in paperwork 
DENY THEIR CLAIM AND ASK FOR THEIR LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ADD £70 PER TICKET.
Include in your reply that you require a further 30 days as you are seeking debt advice

THE SAR .... there is no particular template as it's simple.  You now, immediately, SAR the parking company, not DCBL, requesting all information they hold on you and to include copies of the parking tickets and signs that relate to each ticket.

You will take pictures of the current signs and if possible timestamp them.

D_P_Dance

Read these, 

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.com/2016/11/residential-parking.html

https://forums.landlordzone.co.uk/forum/residential-letting-questions/1053920-private-parking-companies

What does your lease/AST say about parking?.  Does it mention permits, or  paying a PPC, does it give you primacy of contract.  Have you complained to your Landlord, management company,  MP?  Templates are in the newbies. 

imgnawinn

Umkomaas said:

Is the £680 the sum of the four figures shown below it, or an additional amount?

What is meant by 'Rental'?
What is the context of 'Name spelled incorrectly'?

You can find a very detailed guide to dealing with a formal Letter Before Claim in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, second post. You will also find links to the SAR template there. 

Do you own, lease or rent your property?  What do your ownership/rental legal documents say about your parking rights?

Thanks for your reply and apologies for the delay in my response.

1. No this is a separate PCN for that vehicle mentioned.
2. This was a rental car I hired and park in front of my house - the carpark is literally empty every day even to date!

 I live with my parents and we rent from a housing association that do rent out these spots, my dad does have a permit but again we park anywhere as the designated spot is always taken by someone else. the parking company that manages this also state when someone has parked in your spot to park on other free locations but they want you to call but this happens nearly every day and not very practical. We report this and then receive a ticket for ourselves too! Again i don't blame others for parking here as it is not clear at all.

imgnawinn

beamerguy said:

They are all dated 31st March 2021

1. FE06 *** - £680 - REGISTERED KEEPER
2. YC19 *** - £170 - RENTAL
3. K11 *** - £170 - REGISTERED KEEPER
4. K11 *** - £170 - REGISTERED KEEPER
5. K11 *** - £170 - NAME SPELT INCORRECTLY 

On number 2 ... do you mean a rental car

ALL CHARGES CLAIMED BY DCBL ARE FAKE.   THEY ADD FAKE £70.   

Have you any idea when these tickets are dated/issued ?

1: As these letters are "letters before claim" you need to respond.  Quote all 5 letters in one to condense 
this otherwise you will get bogged down in paperwork 
DENY THEIR CLAIM AND ASK FOR THEIR LEGAL AUTHORITY TO ADD £70 PER TICKET.
Include in your reply that you require a further 30 days as you are seeking debt advice

THE SAR .... there is no particular template as it's simple.  You now, immediately, SAR the parking company, not DCBL, requesting all information they hold on you and to include copies of the parking tickets and signs that relate to each ticket.

You will take pictures of the current signs and if possible timestamp them.

to be honest, i have been ignoring their letters and these are from years ago, I haven't had K11 ** for nearly 2 years which would be the most recent vehicle i had from that list

imgnawinn

ok so i have sent a SAR and email to DCBL & response form on their website which is as follows.

SAR

ELITE CAR PARKING MANAGEMENT

12 High Street, Stanford-Le-Hope, Essex SS17 0EY

Dear Sir or Madam

Subject access request ( Data Protection Act 2018 / General Data Protection Regulations (GDPR) )

MY ADDRESS

Please supply the data about me that I am entitled to under data protection law relating to myself.

- ALL photos taken
- all letters/emails sent and received, including any appeal correspondence earlier
- all data held, all evidence, and a full copy of the PCN, NTK, basically I want all the info held in my name.
- and a list of all PCNs outstanding against me, any claim must be for all PCNs, not several separate claims.

If you need any more data from me to confirm my identity please let me know as soon as possible. I do not require to send in my passport or DL, but I am willing to provide a utility bill in my name which is all you legally require. It may be helpful for you to know that data protection law requires you to respond to a request for data within one calendar month.

If you do not normally deal with these requests, please pass this letter to your Data Protection Officer or relevant staff member. If you need advice on dealing with this request, the Information Commissioner’s Office can assist you. Its website is ico. org.uk or it can be contacted on 0303 123 1113.

Yours faithfully

EMAIL TO DCBL

Hi DCBL.

I am seeking debt advice but I deny any debt and the case must be put 'on hold' for not less than 30 days under the PAP for debt claims 2017. I have also sent your client a SAR for all information in regards to my name. I wish to defend this as you put on an illegal £70 charge on each case and on one you have done this 4x£70 and many other laws that you have broken.

Reference - BLANK FOR DATA PROTECTION ON THIS SITE

Please confirm this in a reply to this email.

Kind Regards

MY NAME

imgnawinn

DCBL have sent this automated reply via email and i have already completed the response form on their website.

Thank you for contacting DCB Legal.

Please note that we will aim to respond to your correspondence where required within 10 working days. In the meantime, should you be contacting in relation to a Parking Charge, you can find some Frequently asked Questions (FAQs) on our website www.dcblegal.co.uk

Should you wish to make a payment, you can do this by visiting https://dcblegal.co.uk/response/pay-online/ Or by bank transfer to the below bank details. Please ensure your DCB legal reference number is quoted with any payments made.

Account number: 60964441
Sort Code: 20-24-09

Should you be in receipt of a letter of claim, please visit www.dcblegal.co.uk/response where you will find further information and be able to reply to the form accordingly.

Kind regards
DCB legal
Tel: 0203 434 0433 | DX 23457 Runcorn
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Coupon-mad

 the designated spot is always taken by someone else. the parking company that manages this also state when someone has parked in your spot to park on other free locations but they want you to call but this happens nearly every day

Do you suspect that the parking company are doing that?  IT's an ex-clamper firm.  What do you think...didn't it occur to you?

Such an easy scam for a rogue PPC to set up in a residential car park where they have local ticketing staff or self-ticketers who might be doing it deliberately to get a bounty per PCN that the self-ticketer (a neighbour) issues.  Perfect scam operations are possible at such sites.

I'd be taking photos of the car(s) that park there and reporting them to the HA and also looking for who gets in or out of that car.

beamerguy

It will be interesting to see what DCBL say about the fake £70 x 2

As there is nothing they can say (which is legal), it can only be a fabrication.

If they fail to reply and explain, then any claim with a signed statement of truth is fake and that will be up to a judge as to what he will do to them.

Umkomaas

To confirm I have received a bulk to letters from DCBL - Letter of claim from elite parking management 

Is the LoC from DCB Legal or from Elite?  Does it give you 30 days to respond?

ok so i have sent a SAR and email to DCBL & response form on their website which is as follows.

You need to send a SAR to the PPC, not the debt collectors/solicitors. 

Please confirm - is the correspondence from DCBL from their debt collection arm, known as DCB Limited, or their legal arm, DCB Legal?