Holiday entitlement after resigning

After 6 years at my workplace, have decided its time to move on. 
I have given my boss a verbal resignation with 8 weeks notice (i work at a small wildlife charity, so they need time to find the right employee) and am trying to figure the best way to word my official resignation letter requesting holiday pay. 
I am unsure how holiday pay works. 
I work 8. 5 hours, 4 days a week.
Does my holiday entitlement start from January or April or am I entitled to my full 21 days (minus 3 days already had this year)
Many thanks 
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  • TBagpuss
    TBagpuss Posts: 11,236 Forumite
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    Whether your holiday year runs from Jan or April (or some other date) is entirely down to your contract / terms of employments, there isn't a universal rule.  

    It may be in your contract or employee handbook, if not, ask whoever runs payroll.

    Once you know, you work out  how much holiday you will have built up this year by your leaving date.

    For example (assuming your holiday year runs from 1st Jan.)

    21 days holiday per year - 21/52 = 0.403 (this gives you the amount of holiday you build up for each week worked) 
    16 weeks (up to today) so holiday accrued to date would be 16 x 0.403 = 6.46.


    If your holiday year starts in April then you';ll only have worked 3 weeks so far this year and presumably will have worked about 7-8 weeks by your leaving date, so the amount accrued will be lower. (but you would of course only take off any days you've had off since the first of April) 




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  • Undervalued
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    After 6 years at my workplace, have decided its time to move on. 
    I have given my boss a verbal resignation with 8 weeks notice (i work at a small wildlife charity, so they need time to find the right employee) and am trying to figure the best way to word my official resignation letter requesting holiday pay
    I am unsure how holiday pay works. 
    I work 8. 5 hours, 4 days a week.
    Does my holiday entitlement start from January or April or am I entitled to my full 21 days (minus 3 days already had this year)
    Many thanks 
    As in the previous post. Plus, remember that it is entirely up to your employer whether they want you to take whatever holiday is due during your notice period or have you work the full notice and pay you for untaken holiday after you leave.

    You can ask them to do whichever you prefer but ultimately it is up to them to decide.
  • TELLIT01
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    Irrespective of whether your leave year starts in January or April, you will not be entitled to the full leave allocation for the year.  If it runs from January you will be entitled to approx 6 1/2 months worth.  If from April you will only be entitled to a little under 3 months.  As others have said, your employer can tell you to use all, part, or none, of your leave during the notice period.
  • 74jax
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    After 6 years at my workplace, have decided its time to move on. 
    I have given my boss a verbal resignation with 8 weeks notice (i work at a small wildlife charity, so they need time to find the right employee) and am trying to figure the best way to word my official resignation letter requesting holiday pay. 
    I am unsure how holiday pay works. 
    I work 8. 5 hours, 4 days a week.
    Does my holiday entitlement start from January or April or am I entitled to my full 21 days (minus 3 days already had this year)
    Many thanks 
    How, after 6 years, do you not know if you holiday allowance is from January or April (or any other time)?

    How have you usually booked holiday? How do you get to know how many days you have left and if you can carry over etc?

    Is it computer based? If so can you log on and see how many days you have accrued and from when? Or at least when you have had your new years allocation? 
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  • nicole2216
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    74jax said:
    After 6 years at my workplace, have decided its time to move on. 
    I have given my boss a verbal resignation with 8 weeks notice (i work at a small wildlife charity, so they need time to find the right employee) and am trying to figure the best way to word my official resignation letter requesting holiday pay. 
    I am unsure how holiday pay works. 
    I work 8. 5 hours, 4 days a week.
    Does my holiday entitlement start from January or April or am I entitled to my full 21 days (minus 3 days already had this year)
    Many thanks 
    How, after 6 years, do you not know if you holiday allowance is from January or April (or any other time)?

    How have you usually booked holiday? How do you get to know how many days you have left and if you can carry over etc?

    Is it computer based? If so can you log on and see how many days you have accrued and from when? Or at least when you have had your new years allocation? 
    Its a small wildlife rescue charity with about 6 employees including the director 70 yrs old, his wife 68 yrs old and their daughter 43 (my manager) is very much a like a family. I ask for time off, as long as no one else has time off, ive always got my dates. I can't have holidays from Nov - end of march. The working hours vary from 8-4.30 in the winter months to 9-5.30 in the summer.
    Over this past year I have gone over and beyond the call of duty to help cover hospital appointments and holidays and am still paid by cheque, which 9 times out of 10 I had to ask for.
    After constant run ins with my over sensitive manager, and a boss (her mother) who won't have a bad word said against her daughter, ive decided its time to leave.
    I have given them 8 weeks as that takes me upto a holiday I have booked and gives them more than enough time to find a replacement.
    If it was financially possible for me to leave tomorrow, i would but at least I can now count down to freedom. 
    It's a very backward workplace and I have seen many employees come and go. I will miss the animals but at 51 years old the physical outdoor work is getting to me. 


  • 74jax
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    edited 21 April 2021 at 9:44PM
    74jax said:
    After 6 years at my workplace, have decided its time to move on. 
    I have given my boss a verbal resignation with 8 weeks notice (i work at a small wildlife charity, so they need time to find the right employee) and am trying to figure the best way to word my official resignation letter requesting holiday pay. 
    I am unsure how holiday pay works. 
    I work 8. 5 hours, 4 days a week.
    Does my holiday entitlement start from January or April or am I entitled to my full 21 days (minus 3 days already had this year)
    Many thanks 
    How, after 6 years, do you not know if you holiday allowance is from January or April (or any other time)?

    How have you usually booked holiday? How do you get to know how many days you have left and if you can carry over etc?

    Is it computer based? If so can you log on and see how many days you have accrued and from when? Or at least when you have had your new years allocation? 
    I ask for time off, as long as no one else has time off, ive always got my dates. I can't have holidays from Nov - end of march. The working hours vary from 8-4.30 in the winter months to 9-5.30 in the summer.



    So when you put in a holiday was it on paper? Do you have a total you take from? How do you keep track of what you have and taken?
    There must be a point you run out, if this is November, do you get your next allocation in January, April, or when? 
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  • nicole2216
    nicole2216 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    A big calender on the wall with colour coded stickers!! That's how holidays are worked out! Never been a problem as always requested holidays out of season. 
    I asked my manager on Tuesday when holiday entitlement starts and her reply was "April, I think"!! 
    Always got the time off I wanted. Never really had sick days. My workplace is a 10 min cycle ride from home so was very convenient. 
    I originally worked Mon/Tues half day and all day Thursday,  but went full time in January.  

  • TELLIT01
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    Interesting as it is, none of the information about company structure, useless boss etc is relevant to what holiday pay you may be entitled to.  You'll have to get that info from the management.
  • pinkshoes
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    Stick to the relevant facts...

    The company (regardless of size) will have a holiday year that runs from a particular month. e.g. my husband works for a company and their new holiday year starts 01 May.

    So... If the entitlement starts April, and you will be finishing in 8 weeks time (19th June??) then that is (30+31+19 = 80) days into the holiday year. 80/365 = 22%, so assuming you haven't taken any in April so far, you will be entitled to 22% of the statutory minimum.

    Minimum = 20 days holiday plus 8 bank holidays so 28 days.

    22% of this is just over 6 days.

    But... you need to deduct any bank holiday days you had off from this (2 in May), so potentially they need to pay you 4 days holiday.

    You will need to work it out yourself though and it will entirely depend on when the holiday year started. 

    Surely you have a record of all time booked off work in the last year??
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  • General_Grant
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    edited 26 April 2021 at 6:31PM
    pinkshoes said:
    Stick to the relevant facts...

    The company (regardless of size) will have a holiday year that runs from a particular month. e.g. my husband works for a company and their new holiday year starts 01 May.

    So... If the entitlement starts April, and you will be finishing in 8 weeks time (19th June??) then that is (30+31+19 = 80) days into the holiday year. 80/365 = 22%, so assuming you haven't taken any in April so far, you will be entitled to 22% of the statutory minimum.

    Minimum = 20 days holiday plus 8 bank holidays so 28 days.

    22% of this is just over 6 days.

    But... you need to deduct any bank holiday days you had off from this (2 in May), so potentially they need to pay you 4 days holiday.

    You will need to work it out yourself though and it will entirely depend on when the holiday year started. 

    Surely you have a record of all time booked off work in the last year??
    Though rare, not all companies have a "company holiday year".  If it doesn't then the regulations say an individual's holiday year begins on the date their employment began.

    The OP is entitled to 5.6 weeks holiday as a minimum as that is what is required  under the WT Regs.  That minimum is 28 days for those who work 5 or more days a week.  However the OP works 4 days a week and therefore their entitlement is proportionately less in terms of days, though still 5.6 of their weeks.
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