Two MPAN numbers

LSHand

I know this question comes up every now and then but it seems like the advice varies each time. I'm renting a flat which has two electric meter numbers. I'm not sure I fully understand how the meters are set up- There's only one meter display outside with a set of three readings I have to give (to SSE). I guess one of them goes on at night and that the electric storage heater runs through it. 
I don't use the heaters much (at day or night) but seem to be paying something like £90 a month for a one person flat. The last time I rented somewhere and paid bills was a few years ago but I recall it was around £25 a month. Here's the rates I'm paying:

Day energy unit rate 21.68p per kWh
Night energy unit rate 16.14p per kWh
Stored heat energy unit rate 13.94p per kWh
Standing charge 27.59p per day

Anyway, back to the old question of how to get a better deal starting from more than one MPAN number: Should I contact SSE and ask to be switched over to a single meter first? Should I call up the larger companies and ask them what deals they can offer me with a two-meter setup? The cheaper energy club website says I can sign up there using separate accounts for each MPAN number, but elsewhere I've read to avoid this as I'd be paying two standing charges that way?

Would love to hear people's opinions.

Gerry1

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macman

What's the name of your supplier and tariff?
Sounds like a old E10 metering or similar, which no other provider other than the legacy one will support.
Trying to switch supplier on a dual-MPAN set up will invariably end in tears.
Do you only have a single NSH. No others, no immersion heater?

LSHand

macman said:

What's the name of your supplier and tariff?
Sounds like a old E10 metering or similar, which no other provider other than the legacy one will support.
Trying to switch supplier on a dual-MPAN set up will invariably end in tears.
Do you only have a single NSH. No others, no immersion heater?

Hi, sorry for the late reply. I do have an immersion heater but since it only does the hot water water for the sink I've told it's cheaper to just use its booster (which I do for a total of about three hours a week) than to have it heating over offpeak hours. I have one storage heater and one panel heater which I guess just goes through the main meter?

The supplier is SSE and they just call it their "Standard SuperDeal".

LSHand

Gerry1 said:

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It does mention on the bill that I can switch to a single-rate tariff. But they would leave physical metering system as-is, meaning it is still difficult to switch to another supplier. Have I got that right?

Gerry1

LSHand said:

Gerry1 said:

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It does mention on the bill that I can switch to a single-rate tariff. But they would leave physical metering system as-is, meaning it is still difficult to switch to another supplier. Have I got that right?

That's how I understand it, but that's only from the links to which I referred.  It's a dreadfully expensive tariff so almost anything else is likely to be better.  Ideally you need to have a traditional E7 meter and then you could switch to your heart's contenet, but first you'd need to make sure that your NSH will cope with the shorter charging period.  You could try limiting it to seven hours and see how it behaves but ideally you'd need to do that when it's really cold.

Was there anything useful in the Successful Switch article?

LSHand

Gerry1 said:

LSHand said:

Gerry1 said:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78254668/#Comment_78254668

It does mention on the bill that I can switch to a single-rate tariff. But they would leave physical metering system as-is, meaning it is still difficult to switch to another supplier. Have I got that right?

That's how I understand it, but that's only from the links to which I referred.  It's a dreadfully expensive tariff so almost anything else is likely to be better.  Ideally you need to have a traditional E7 meter and then you could switch to your heart's contenet, but first you'd need to make sure that your NSH will cope with the shorter charging period.  You could try limiting it to seven hours and see how it behaves but ideally you'd need to do that when it's really cold.

Was there anything useful in the Successful Switch article?

Yeah, cheers, the Successful Switch story was an interesting account but it sounds for all the world like one person getting lucky. I've heard storage heaters can still work out quite cheap if you use them right but I barely use the heater so will just email Octopus + the big 6 and if I don't get a good answer I guess I'll just call up SSE to switch tariffs as soon as I get the chance.

PZ19

I have 2 MPANs, on economy 10 system.. Always been on e10 tariffs until I recently switched to Igloo on a one tariff rate for all, works out bit more expensive in winter months but cheaper in all other months and over the year based on my usage.  I don’t think you should be charged 2 standing charges anymore by the way, my last supplier Bulb, did charge but then based on some ofgem ruling they credited me back for one meter.  I know EDF do E10, via their complex metering unit 

This is useful website for help and advice, and you can see who can supply you in your area  https://economy10.com/

Only real issue I ever had was with Npower when they changed their billing system and couldn’t cope with 2 MPANs..loads of hassle, but in the end they got it wrong so badly they ended up wiping the bills for most of the year!

stewie_griffin

LSHand said:

Gerry1 said:

LSHand said:

Gerry1 said:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/78254668/#Comment_78254668

It does mention on the bill that I can switch to a single-rate tariff. But they would leave physical metering system as-is, meaning it is still difficult to switch to another supplier. Have I got that right?

That's how I understand it, but that's only from the links to which I referred.  It's a dreadfully expensive tariff so almost anything else is likely to be better.  Ideally you need to have a traditional E7 meter and then you could switch to your heart's contenet, but first you'd need to make sure that your NSH will cope with the shorter charging period.  You could try limiting it to seven hours and see how it behaves but ideally you'd need to do that when it's really cold.

Was there anything useful in the Successful Switch article?

Yeah, cheers, the Successful Switch story was an interesting account but it sounds for all the world like one person getting lucky. I've heard storage heaters can still work out quite cheap if you use them right but I barely use the heater so will just email Octopus + the big 6 and if I don't get a good answer I guess I'll just call up SSE to switch tariffs as soon as I get the chance.

There's no point in contacting npower as they will cease to exist very soon.