Inexplicable SEISS 4th grant rejection - anyone else?

jontryingtosortitallout

Blimey, it has been years since I've posted on here but always was great!

I haven't had my email from HMRC yet but I saw some people sharing the link going live the other day so typed my details in for the date. I was then shocked and dismayed to see that I was ineligible for grant 4. When I clicked on it it just said it would be one of the standard 4 reasons:

- Not registered as self employed (of course I am) 
- Earned more than 50k profit (nope)
- Less from self employment 19/20 than elsewhere (only earned money as self employed)
- Did not submit before 2 March (submitted last may)

I couldn't get anyone at HMRC on the phone but I did on a web chat and told them about it, they "looked into it" for quite some time, saw the same thing, and said they didn't know why but a review team would let me know by 26th April. So I'm now sat watching my inbox in a severe mixture of hope and fear.

Has anyone else experienced the same thing? Has anyone received an explanation or had a review result? 
I saw Martin mention the site isn't officially supposed to go live until Monday so I'm sort of clinging on to the idea maybe my data hadn't been properly added yet. 

Thanks for replies and I will update when I get good/bad news. 

Dylan764

My wife has just had the same rejection response, despite receiving the previous grants.  On checking her tax return on HMRC we saw that it was listed as not submitted, even though she'd submitted it on 9th January 2021 and paid her tax the same day, with receipt email.  We've re-submitted the return today and are hopeful of getting it.  We should know early next week.  Good luck.

sheramber

Do you have a submission reference number which would be given when it was submitted?

Or did she click on the save buttin rather than the submit one?

Dazed_and_C0nfused

Dylan764 said:

My wife has just had the same rejection response, despite receiving the previous grants.  On checking her tax return on HMRC we saw that it was listed as not submitted, even though she'd submitted it on 9th January 2021 and paid her tax the same day, with receipt email.  We've re-submitted the return today and are hopeful of getting it.  We should know early next week.  Good luck.

I think you're more likely to get a late return penalty notice than a SEISS grant.

comeandgo

Dylan764 said:

My wife has just had the same rejection response, despite receiving the previous grants.  On checking her tax return on HMRC we saw that it was listed as not submitted, even though she'd submitted it on 9th January 2021 and paid her tax the same day, with receipt email.  We've re-submitted the return today and are hopeful of getting it.  We should know early next week.  Good luck.

I few years ago I had similar problem.  I submitted tax return and forgot about it.  I received letter advising of late return but ignored it as thought they HMRC had sent it in error but they persisted and after a few months I did phone them as the fines were getting bigger.  I had a long “ discussion “ with a very unpleasant lady who after me insisting I had submitted my return put me through to their IS department.  Staff there were more helpful and were in fact able to see I had submitted my return as I was able to tell them the exact time I did it.  I was given a code to quote to original department and all fines rescinded.  This long tale is to tell you to persevere if you are sure you did submit your return in time.

sam8787

No email for me yet. Do you have the link I could use to check please?

Batesy1976

sam8787 said:

No email for me yet. Do you have the link I could use to check please?

It's in the weekly MSE email which you can find a link to in the sub forum above this one.

sam8787

I wish I didn’t ask now. I have no idea why it says I can’t claim. I’m a fully self employed plumber/sole trader. Profits were not more than £50000, my 19/20 tax return was filled in on the day of the new tax year (6th April 2020). Lots of useless phone calls for me to look forward to now

Dazed_and_C0nfused

Have you viewed your completed return on your gov.uk account?

That may give you an idea as to what the problem is i.e. what parts of the return were completed etc.

sam8787

I’m 100% sure. I have the submission reference number and also got a rebate

Jeremy535897

If you meet the conditions of eligibility, all you can do is contact them. The conditions are here:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-the-coronavirus-covid-19-self-employment-income-support-scheme