Outdoor fuse/trip switch for car charger

Morning folks, 
Can any qualified sparkys tell me if this is safe!? 

I had a pod point car charger installed a week ago, I wasn’t in at the time so never had the chance to query the workman, but ever since I’ve wondered if the fuse switch/mcb shouldn’t be outside. I opened the cover up after a rain shower and water leaked in through the sides. I certainly wouldn’t want to open it during a shower! 


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  • Apodemus
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    Interesting!   I'm not an electrician, so not qualified to comment, but a quick google suggests that the box is a Europa ECW series insulated distribution enclosure, which conforms to IP65.   And that IP65 means: Water resistant. “Protected against water jets from any angle” 
  • Ajmason42
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    Googling europa do an ip65 rated consumer box and it looks like the one in your picture but if in doubt call the installer for confirmation 
  • benish
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    Ok. I guess if it’s IP rated it’s fine. Thanks for the comments. 
  • TELLIT01
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    Although it may be the correct box surely it shouldn't be letting water in.  It may simply be a case that the seal hasn't been seated properly but I would get the person back who did the installation to check it out.
  • coffeehound
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    Was it the act of opening the cover that let the rain in?
  • Risteard
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    edited 31 March 2021 at 11:22AM
    External equipment needs to be adequately IP rated. That said, "consumer units and similar switchgear assemblies in domestic (household) premises" must be made from non-combustible material, or housed in a cabinet made from non-combustible material. Ferrous metal, e.g. steel, is given as an example of non-combustible material. So in my opinion it doesn't comply with BS 7671:2018 (2020) aka the IEE Wiring Regulations.
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  • Ectophile
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    Risteard said:
    External equipment needs to be adequately IP rated. That said, "consumer units and similar switchgear assemblies in domestic (household) premises" must be made from non-combustible material, or housed in a cabinet made from non-combustible material. Ferrous metal, e.g. steel, is given as an example of non-combustible material. So in my opinion it doesn't comply with BS 7671:2018 (2020) aka the IEE Wiring Regulations.
    But it's outside the habitable area.  The IET considers that there is no requirement for it to be metal. https://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-matters/years/2015/55-special-edition-ii-2015/new-non-combustible-enclosure-requirement-for-consumer-units/
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • Risteard
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    Ectophile said:
    Risteard said:
    External equipment needs to be adequately IP rated. That said, "consumer units and similar switchgear assemblies in domestic (household) premises" must be made from non-combustible material, or housed in a cabinet made from non-combustible material. Ferrous metal, e.g. steel, is given as an example of non-combustible material. So in my opinion it doesn't comply with BS 7671:2018 (2020) aka the IEE Wiring Regulations.
    But it's outside the habitable area.  The IET considers that there is no requirement for it to be metal. https://electrical.theiet.org/wiring-matters/years/2015/55-special-edition-ii-2015/new-non-combustible-enclosure-requirement-for-consumer-units/

    Not true. They consider the external wall of a dwelling to be part of the dwelling. They simply suggested that a detached garage might not be considered to be. That has always been their position on it, so I am assuming that this is what the article you have linked to alludes to.
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