Garden

getmore4less

GJB1954 said:

Thanks for replies. I put this on here after reading on another forum. There was a  thread about buying house and size of garden. This due to storing sports equipment. Most wanted either garage , shed etc and yes somewhere to sit outside . Most did not want even a say medium garden / lawn. This due to upkeep, cutting grass etc. Disposal of garden waste. Local council charge extra for this or have to take to local refuse tip. 

Now new house builds have small gardens is this the new normal and having a medium / large garden would put buyers off. 

Composting solves most of that problem, and it can take a lot of the kitchen waste as well.
A shredder helps with that speeding up the process.

RelievedSheff

getmore4less said:

GJB1954 said:

Thanks for replies. I put this on here after reading on another forum. There was a  thread about buying house and size of garden. This due to storing sports equipment. Most wanted either garage , shed etc and yes somewhere to sit outside . Most did not want even a say medium garden / lawn. This due to upkeep, cutting grass etc. Disposal of garden waste. Local council charge extra for this or have to take to local refuse tip. 

Now new house builds have small gardens is this the new normal and having a medium / large garden would put buyers off. 

Composting solves most of that problem, and it can take a lot of the kitchen waste as well.
A shredder helps with that speeding up the process.

All well and good if you have somewhere to put a compost bin/heap!!

We really miss having a compost bin but we just have not got anywhere to put one in the new garden.

GJB1954

I asked which was from another forum. Most replies on there did not want garden. A lawn , vegetable patch etc. Just paved area to sit and say a shed to store said sports equipment.   Is this new norm. 

Have found during house sale that FTB’S saw garden . Put off by upkeep. ?

ratechaser

There are lots and lots of reasons why I would never buy a new build, but the biggest one is that the dimensions both inside and out are now more suited to dolls than people. My FIL has what amounts to a postage stamp for a garden, overlooked on 2 sides.

My idea of a 'garden' is anything that I need a sit on lawnmower to maintain. Ideally with a cup holder for my pint... I'm not quite there with my current place, but that was bought tactically for schools etc. 

My retirement move will definitely have an acre plus as a minimum requirement. Ideally with a river/pond

getmore4less

RelievedSheff said:

getmore4less said:

GJB1954 said:

Thanks for replies. I put this on here after reading on another forum. There was a  thread about buying house and size of garden. This due to storing sports equipment. Most wanted either garage , shed etc and yes somewhere to sit outside . Most did not want even a say medium garden / lawn. This due to upkeep, cutting grass etc. Disposal of garden waste. Local council charge extra for this or have to take to local refuse tip. 

Now new house builds have small gardens is this the new normal and having a medium / large garden would put buyers off. 

Composting solves most of that problem, and it can take a lot of the kitchen waste as well.
A shredder helps with that speeding up the process.

All well and good if you have somewhere to put a compost bin/heap!!

We really miss having a compost bin but we just have not got anywhere to put one in the new garden.

If the place is big enough to create a lot of stuff for a compost then there will be space that is cultivated rather than hard just needs some creative thought on where you put it

One option you don't see a lot which can tuck into a corner is going higher  to reduce the footprint, 60x60x150h (540ltr)  in a corner can be easily hidden,
Even a blackwall compost dalek(800dx1000h, 330lt) don't take up a lot of room.

for lower volumes if you can get the worms working with any food waste you can go quite small they eat the garden stuff as well.

there is always the shred and just use as a mulch. 

OldMusicGuy

I think people these days like gardens but aren't interested in gardening that much. I recently lived on a small development of about 15 detached houses (the smallest would go for about 550K) and most of the front gardens were what I would call tatty. People there weren't that interested in keeping the front gardens really nice (only saw a few of the back gardens, again some of these were what I would call poorly looked after).
 
We have just moved to a new build estate of 4/5 bed  places, and again, several of the front gardens are really tatty already (and they only have a small square of grass with some bushes around the perimeter). The older folks (like us) seem to be more interested in gardening than the younger folks. The two houses with the tattiest gardens are inhabited by professional couples in their 30s. 

When we sold our house in 2019 it had a well established and very nicely laid out garden. We thought it would be a selling point but most people weren't that interested. However, it was a key factor in the decision of the couple that bought it.

We are both keen on gardens but when we downsized last year we went for a place with a small garden which we are having professionally landscaped. I'm glad it's small as landscaping doesn't come cheap! Also, we both agreed that as this is our final home before death/care home, we did not want a large garden that we couldn't look after when we get into our 80s.

Alan2020

People here don't live in the real world.  Many many houses, don't have large gardens, a lot of old terraces have a patio only 2m deep or so.  Actually in London vast majority of houses don't have a garden as people here describe and I would strongly disagree on garden size, have you been to most European cities, literally everyone lives in apartments with Zero gardens!
Like this garden?
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/73134135#/

GaleSF63

Alan2020 said:

People here don't live in the real world.  Many many houses, don't have large gardens, a lot of old terraces have a patio only 2m deep or so.  Actually in London vast majority of houses don't have a garden as people here describe and I would strongly disagree on garden size, have you been to most European cities, literally everyone lives in apartments with Zero gardens!
Like this garden?
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/73134135#/

"Outdoor space."

A garden to me has things growing out of the ground. Size of plot immaterial. 

Alan2020

GaleSF63 said:

"Outdoor space."

A garden to me has things growing out of the ground. Size of plot immaterial. 

All I am pointing out is for many people a patio or roof terrace is their garden. The property I posted just shows how locations affect garden size or even what is the equivalent??? Not sure you would want a swing on it or a trampoline!

MovingForwards

I'm sure there's a few of us who would like bigger gardens, but the properties were not within budget.

Ideally I would have had 3 acres, a nice size croft of me to do a small smallholding, but that wasn't happening on my income. Instead I picked the best property for my budget, with a garden and have my name down on the allotment waiting list. Nowhere near the same, but a good enough compromise. Things may be different in the future and a small house with a plot of land may be achievable.

Everyone is different, thankfully.