Outside Electrical Socket - Closed

SaverRate
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Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place but I am looking at getting an outdoor socket fitted to the front of my house. I want to either be able to isolate this from inside the house or have a key lock on the outdoor socket itself. 
MK used to do a lockable outdoor socket in black (Perfect!) but its been discontinued. So my other options are to try and source an internal 2 gang socket that has a plug then a fuse spur together so i can switch over a double socket then have the fuse spur feeding the outside socket. My other option is to have a lock style switch fitted next to the outside socket in a waterproof box but this wont look the best.
Can anyone help with the above or suggest any other options? Can I buy a cooker switch with plug and just wire the outdoor socket to the cooker switch as 13 amps goes in so 13 amps goes out or is this not possible as the cooker which is rated at 45 amp. (Like this one MK Logic Plus 45A 2-Gang DP Cooker Switch & 13A DP Switched Socket White | Switches | Screwfix.com )

Thanks!

Edit  - Ideally I don't want any raised internal fuse spurs or have to cut new back boxes into the finished wall otherwise I would just fit an internal single fused spur to feed the outside socket. 
FTB - April 2020 
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  • Ajmason42
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    BG ones from toolstation appear to have a hole for a padlock in the middle at the bottom


  • Alanp
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    You could get a outside waterproof socket, and wire it via an rcd in the nearest socket to where you want it..why does it need to be lockable..?
  • SaverRate
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    Ideally I don't want to have to use a padlock. I want a lockable socket as its at the front of the house. 
    Can you get an internal double socket where the one side is a socket and the other is a fused spur to which I can wire a normal outside socket?
    FTB - April 2020 
  • greyteam1959
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    edited 21 March 2021 at 7:51PM
    Instead of the lockable outdoor socket why not just turn the electric off at the switched spur ??

  • molerat
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    edited 21 March 2021 at 8:03PM
    There are lots of options but
    Ideally I don't want any raised internal fuse spurs or have to cut new back boxes into the finished wall 
    rules out the majority.
    You can get back boxes that take 2 single units but they are bigger than a double back box so goes back to your caveat above.
  • knightstyle
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    Remote control one?   

    Smart Plug WiFi,SONOFF S55 Heavy Duty IP55 Waterproof 13A Outdoor Mini Outlet Works with Alexa,Google Home, Smart Wireless Socket Outlet Timer Switch Remote Control Your Devices

  • grumbler
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    Can I buy a cooker switch with plug and just wire the outdoor socket to the cooker switch as 13 amps goes in so 13 amps goes out or is this not possible as the cooker which is rated at 45 amp.
    What matters is the rating of the MCB that protects the wire to the outdoor socket.

    Edit  - Ideally I don't want any raised internal fuse spurs or have to cut new back boxes into the finished wall otherwise I would just fit an internal single fused spur to feed the outside socket.
    That's what I have for one of my outdoor socket - a switch with neon indicator installed in a backbox in a stud wall, but I wouldn't have a problem with a brick wall either. I don't think it has to be a fused spur unless you connect it to a socket that is already a spur, but it has to be protected by RCD. It can be the same RCD that protects all your sockets if you have  it.
    And, theoretically, you cannot DIY.
  • Alanp
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    grumbler said:m
    Can I buy a cooker switch with plug and just wire the outdoor socket to the cooker switch as 13 amps goes in so 13 amps goes out or is this not possible as the cooker which is rated at 45 amp.
    What matters is the rating of the MCB that protects the wire to the outdoor socket.

    Edit  - Ideally I don't want any raised internal fuse spurs or have to cut new back boxes into the finished wall otherwise I would just fit an internal single fused spur to feed the outside socket.
    That's what I have for one of my outdoor socket - a switch with neon indicator installed in a backbox in a stud wall, but I wouldn't have a problem with a brick wall either. I don't think it has to be a fused spur unless you connect it to a socket that is already a spur, but it has to be protected by RCD. It can be the same RCD that protects all your sockets if you have  it.
    And, theoretically, you cannot DIY.
    If you wire it with an rcd it can be done diy
  • Ajmason42
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    this is this is available at cef. You could match to an enclosure. 

    Schneider Lisse 13A DP Unswitched Lockable Socket  

  • grumbler
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    Alanp said:
    grumbler said:m
    Can I buy a cooker switch with plug and just wire the outdoor socket to the cooker switch as 13 amps goes in so 13 amps goes out or is this not possible as the cooker which is rated at 45 amp.
    What matters is the rating of the MCB that protects the wire to the outdoor socket.

    Edit  - Ideally I don't want any raised internal fuse spurs or have to cut new back boxes into the finished wall otherwise I would just fit an internal single fused spur to feed the outside socket.
    That's what I have for one of my outdoor socket - a switch with neon indicator installed in a backbox in a stud wall, but I wouldn't have a problem with a brick wall either. I don't think it has to be a fused spur unless you connect it to a socket that is already a spur, but it has to be protected by RCD. It can be the same RCD that protects all your sockets if you have  it.
    And, theoretically, you cannot DIY.
    If you wire it with an rcd it can be done diy
    I can be wrong, but AFAIK, you are allowed only to do 'like for like' replacements. All other works have to be certified.
    I don't see how an RCD can change anything especially as, most likely, there already is one for all sockets.

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