DBS Check after Getting A Job

juraj.kecso

Hi,
The way I see it, you have two options:
1. Keep quiet and wait for the DBS to come back - you will most certainly get discovered and will be sacked for dishonesty without notice pay
2. Come forward and explain the situation to your manager - you stand a better chance of keeping the job as most managers appreciate honesty. Now, this may not be enough depending on the company, the nature of the conviction and its relevance to your job etc. but it gives you a fighting chance. Even if this is not accepted, you will be invited to a disciplinary hearing or a formal meeting where your fate will be decided, which still gives you an opportunity to resign with immediate effect.

justworriedabit

Marcon said:

justworriedabit said:

Marcon said:

Gavin83 said:

Andy500 said:

I started working in a new job back in October. I had been trying to get something decent for ages so was pleased to get it and have worked hard at it. Things seem to be going well and my 6 months Probation period ends in mid April. Last week I was told that they needed a DBS check for me and that this should have been done before but it wasn't. I always hoped that this wouldn't come up as I took a risk when applying for the job and said that I didn't have a criminal record and hoped they wouldn't check. Now that they are asking I am trying to figure out what is the best thing to do. Just go ahead and sign the form =, tell them before it comes back or maybe try and delay it a bit and delay until my Probation period is over. I know I might have more rights after that.

They've had no problems with me and hoping they will keep me on. I don't want to lose a job over something I did before and was already punishedfor nut have found out from before that people dont really want to give people a chance if they have messed up efore.

You are not losing the job for something you did before, you are losing your job for mistakes you continue to make. You will after all lose your job for the lying, not the previous conviction. While you continue to lie this’ll remain an issue.

I think you have to accept that this job is lost and attempt to find another. If you resign now you may even get a reference.

That's a very good point. Given the employer has yet to apply for a DBS check, and doesn't know there is a problem, resigning might be no bad idea if (as seems highly likely) dismissal is likely to follow. It isn't risk free - the employer may smell a rat, or still want to go ahead with the DBS check (e.g. to ensure they comply with particular insurance policies they may need to hold, depending on the type of business); and of course if OP 'voluntarily' resigns it will impact on any benefits which might otherwise be claimed following the loss of a job.

Great post, not worth the risk. 

What risk would that be?

As per my posts if you read them which I'm assuming you have not, ie lying and risk of being found out.

motorguy

juraj.kecso said:

Hi,
The way I see it, you have two options:
1. Keep quiet and wait for the DBS to come back - you will most certainly get discovered and will be sacked for dishonesty without notice pay
2. Come forward and explain the situation to your manager - you stand a better chance of keeping the job as most managers appreciate honesty. Now, this may not be enough depending on the company, the nature of the conviction and its relevance to your job etc. but it gives you a fighting chance. Even if this is not accepted, you will be invited to a disciplinary hearing or a formal meeting where your fate will be decided, which still gives you an opportunity to resign with immediate effect.

In fairness they have at least 3 options.  The third option being resign now.

I honestly think option 2 will end up being the same outcome as option 1.

Billy_B_North

The OP’s behavior is likely to reduce the likelihood of their employer taking a chance on someone with a record in the future.
This is why a lot of employers won’t employ extra-convicts, all too often you’re letting someone into your organisation that fully intends to lie to you from the beginning.

68ComebackSpecial

justworriedabit said:

Marcon said:

justworriedabit said:

Marcon said:

Gavin83 said:

Andy500 said:

I started working in a new job back in October. I had been trying to get something decent for ages so was pleased to get it and have worked hard at it. Things seem to be going well and my 6 months Probation period ends in mid April. Last week I was told that they needed a DBS check for me and that this should have been done before but it wasn't. I always hoped that this wouldn't come up as I took a risk when applying for the job and said that I didn't have a criminal record and hoped they wouldn't check. Now that they are asking I am trying to figure out what is the best thing to do. Just go ahead and sign the form =, tell them before it comes back or maybe try and delay it a bit and delay until my Probation period is over. I know I might have more rights after that.

They've had no problems with me and hoping they will keep me on. I don't want to lose a job over something I did before and was already punishedfor nut have found out from before that people dont really want to give people a chance if they have messed up efore.

You are not losing the job for something you did before, you are losing your job for mistakes you continue to make. You will after all lose your job for the lying, not the previous conviction. While you continue to lie this’ll remain an issue.

I think you have to accept that this job is lost and attempt to find another. If you resign now you may even get a reference.

That's a very good point. Given the employer has yet to apply for a DBS check, and doesn't know there is a problem, resigning might be no bad idea if (as seems highly likely) dismissal is likely to follow. It isn't risk free - the employer may smell a rat, or still want to go ahead with the DBS check (e.g. to ensure they comply with particular insurance policies they may need to hold, depending on the type of business); and of course if OP 'voluntarily' resigns it will impact on any benefits which might otherwise be claimed following the loss of a job.

Great post, not worth the risk. 

What risk would that be?

As per my posts if you read them which I'm assuming you have not, ie lying and risk of being found out.

Your posts aren't always very clear to understand, possibly because English isn't your first language.

justworriedabit

Gavin83 said:

The OP hasn't stated what their conviction is for (which is entirely their choice) but given the sentence I'm guessing it isn't exactly a minor crime. However some crimes will be more problematic in the workplace than others. For example I'd expect anything theft/fraud related to be a major red flag for most employers. Drug dealing/possession not so much. A lot will depend on the industry and specific role too.

In the OP's case I think it's important to highlight how you accept the mistakes you've made and what you've done to improve yourself so it won't happen again. Lying on an application doesn't really reinforce this.

OP asked the question about completing a DBS  check. The DBS clearly states the form has to be completed accurately and honestly. It does not matter one bit if is a "minor crime" or otherwise. The DBS determines what is "minor" and what is not.
The DBS determines what is a "minor crime" or not as and clear guidelines are there and applicants can seek help with completing this forum.

motorguy

justworriedabit said:

Gavin83 said:

The OP hasn't stated what their conviction is for (which is entirely their choice) but given the sentence I'm guessing it isn't exactly a minor crime. However some crimes will be more problematic in the workplace than others. For example I'd expect anything theft/fraud related to be a major red flag for most employers. Drug dealing/possession not so much. A lot will depend on the industry and specific role too.

In the OP's case I think it's important to highlight how you accept the mistakes you've made and what you've done to improve yourself so it won't happen again. Lying on an application doesn't really reinforce this.

OP asked the question about completing a DBS  check. The DBS clearly states the form has to be completed accurately and honestly. It does not matter one bit if is a "minor crime" or otherwise. The DBS determines what is "minor" and what is not.
The DBS determines what is a "minor crime" or not as and clear guidelines are there and applicants can seek help with completing this forum.

I thought the response from a DBS check was a factual one, reporting on history?