DBS Check after Getting A Job

motorguy

Flugelhorn said:

employer having made the most almighty error in not getting the DBS done, you might just get a good reference out of them. 

I think that is wishful thinking...

motorguy

Personally, i'd jump rather than be pushed.  

nimbo

I don’t know what area of work you’re in but you committed gross misconduct by allowing the lie to go on. You ticked the box saying the best of your knowledge the information shared was correct. It wasn’t as if you got the month you started somewhere wrong. Jumping ship may work - but also be prepared for your next prospective employer to maybe accidentally drop you in it? 

“How did it work getting a dbs with xx convictions in and how that then translated for Bob working with vulnerable adults?” Or “didn’t management struggle with the idea of bob convicted of fraud offences working in finance?” Or whatever it is. 

How did you cover the time you were in prison on the form? 

I’ve worked with probation for years and they will talk you through exactly what you need to disclose and how on the application forms as well as exactly how and what you need to verbalise in interviews. Some will even run employability programmes to help out. 

I appreciate you want a ‘good job’ and to be a good dad (but I’m not sure how being fired for such a massive clanger is a food example). Labouring is honest work and being fired for gross misconduct would be a massive further issue to scale if it happens. 

Have you googled your own name and do your offences come up? Has someone found you online and told the boss? 

Billy_B_North

Andy500 said:

I started working in a new job back in October. I had been trying to get something decent for ages so was pleased to get it and have worked hard at it. Things seem to be going well and my 6 months Probation period ends in mid April. Last week I was told that they needed a DBS check for me and that this should have been done before but it wasn't. I always hoped that this wouldn't come up as I took a risk when applying for the job and said that I didn't have a criminal record and hoped they wouldn't check. Now that they are asking I am trying to figure out what is the best thing to do. Just go ahead and sign the form =, tell them before it comes back or maybe try and delay it a bit and delay until my Probation period is over. I know I might have more rights after that.

You never acquire the right to keep a job after having committed fraud in the application process.
No-one can know whether your company will decide to keep you on, but you need to start being honest with them if you want that to happen.

TELLIT01

The suggestion to accept labouring jobs, or any other, until your convictions are spent is a good one.  It will then show prospective employers that you are willing to put in the effort even when it's work you would rather not be doing.

justworriedabit

Anyone reading this, please be honest, have a one to one in confidence rather than lie on your DBS. Many people make a mistake when they are younger,full of drink etc and often its the only one they've made - a good employer will see through that depending on what that one mistake was.
If you lie on DBS and get caught out, it's not good at all.

justworriedabit

Marcon said:

Gavin83 said:

Andy500 said:

I started working in a new job back in October. I had been trying to get something decent for ages so was pleased to get it and have worked hard at it. Things seem to be going well and my 6 months Probation period ends in mid April. Last week I was told that they needed a DBS check for me and that this should have been done before but it wasn't. I always hoped that this wouldn't come up as I took a risk when applying for the job and said that I didn't have a criminal record and hoped they wouldn't check. Now that they are asking I am trying to figure out what is the best thing to do. Just go ahead and sign the form =, tell them before it comes back or maybe try and delay it a bit and delay until my Probation period is over. I know I might have more rights after that.

They've had no problems with me and hoping they will keep me on. I don't want to lose a job over something I did before and was already punishedfor nut have found out from before that people dont really want to give people a chance if they have messed up efore.

You are not losing the job for something you did before, you are losing your job for mistakes you continue to make. You will after all lose your job for the lying, not the previous conviction. While you continue to lie this’ll remain an issue.

I think you have to accept that this job is lost and attempt to find another. If you resign now you may even get a reference.

That's a very good point. Given the employer has yet to apply for a DBS check, and doesn't know there is a problem, resigning might be no bad idea if (as seems highly likely) dismissal is likely to follow. It isn't risk free - the employer may smell a rat, or still want to go ahead with the DBS check (e.g. to ensure they comply with particular insurance policies they may need to hold, depending on the type of business); and of course if OP 'voluntarily' resigns it will impact on any benefits which might otherwise be claimed following the loss of a job.

Great post, not worth the risk. Just be honest and as per my previous post next time. Trust me there are caring people out there.
Mr J interviews people at times and you would be amazed how many people have a conviction or two.
Good luck OP.

Marcon

justworriedabit said:

Marcon said:

Gavin83 said:

Andy500 said:

I started working in a new job back in October. I had been trying to get something decent for ages so was pleased to get it and have worked hard at it. Things seem to be going well and my 6 months Probation period ends in mid April. Last week I was told that they needed a DBS check for me and that this should have been done before but it wasn't. I always hoped that this wouldn't come up as I took a risk when applying for the job and said that I didn't have a criminal record and hoped they wouldn't check. Now that they are asking I am trying to figure out what is the best thing to do. Just go ahead and sign the form =, tell them before it comes back or maybe try and delay it a bit and delay until my Probation period is over. I know I might have more rights after that.

They've had no problems with me and hoping they will keep me on. I don't want to lose a job over something I did before and was already punishedfor nut have found out from before that people dont really want to give people a chance if they have messed up efore.

You are not losing the job for something you did before, you are losing your job for mistakes you continue to make. You will after all lose your job for the lying, not the previous conviction. While you continue to lie this’ll remain an issue.

I think you have to accept that this job is lost and attempt to find another. If you resign now you may even get a reference.

That's a very good point. Given the employer has yet to apply for a DBS check, and doesn't know there is a problem, resigning might be no bad idea if (as seems highly likely) dismissal is likely to follow. It isn't risk free - the employer may smell a rat, or still want to go ahead with the DBS check (e.g. to ensure they comply with particular insurance policies they may need to hold, depending on the type of business); and of course if OP 'voluntarily' resigns it will impact on any benefits which might otherwise be claimed following the loss of a job.

Great post, not worth the risk. 

What risk would that be?

Gavin83

The OP hasn't stated what their conviction is for (which is entirely their choice) but given the sentence I'm guessing it isn't exactly a minor crime. However some crimes will be more problematic in the workplace than others. For example I'd expect anything theft/fraud related to be a major red flag for most employers. Drug dealing/possession not so much. A lot will depend on the industry and specific role too.

In the OP's case I think it's important to highlight how you accept the mistakes you've made and what you've done to improve yourself so it won't happen again. Lying on an application doesn't really reinforce this.

Billy_B_North

Edenbridge said:

justworriedabit said:

Anyone reading this, please be honest, have a one to one in confidence rather than lie on your DBS. Many people make a mistake when they are younger,full of drink etc and often its the only one they've made - a good employer will see through that depending on what that one mistake was.
If you lie on DBS and get caught out, it's not good at all.

 This makes no sense whatsoever Sweetie

It does. Many employers will still employ you if they believe that you’ve learned your lesson but if you show that you haven’t by lying to them then pretty much everyone would let you go.