LUX AC + (AEBOET 2.4KWh Batteries vs PylonTech)

abeezar

Getting back to original question.. uhome or PL2000B with lux parallel inverter?? 
Been told by supplier  parallel inverter does not work with us2000c/3000c

Solarchaser

Well since I'm running parallel lux with pylontech, I'd have to say whoever told you that was incorrect. 

My vote would definitely be for pylontech, proven platform, readily available and about half the price of the aoboet 

abeezar

Solarchaser said:

Well since I'm running parallel lux with pylontech, I'd have to say whoever told you that was incorrect. 

My vote would definitely be for pylontech, proven platform, readily available and about half the price of the aoboet 

They work with PL 2000B ( also called Plus) but not with PL 2000C/3000C (95%Dod)
 

EVandPV

abeezar said:

Solarchaser said:

Well since I'm running parallel lux with pylontech, I'd have to say whoever told you that was incorrect. 

My vote would definitely be for pylontech, proven platform, readily available and about half the price of the aoboet 

They work with PL 2000B ( also called Plus) but not with PL 2000C/3000C (95%Dod)
 

Do you have a link to this ?
Never heard of PL2000B/C either ??

Solarchaser

I'm assuming when you say pl you are just shortening pylontech?

OK so realistically there is no way that the batteries won't work with the lux.
The lux can take lead acid or any type of battery, the batteries do not decide what the inverter can and can't do.
However there would be no discernable gain to fitting 2000c over the normal 2000 (they dropped the plus from 2019 as I said previously).
The 2000b is a pre 2017 battery with 80% dod as discussed previously. 
I am running a mix of 2000plus and 2000

The 2000 can now be had for £700 whereas the 2000c is still up at £850 odds.
The whole point of batteries is to save you money, so you want the most cost effective way of doing that.

Look the inverters running parallel or not is nothing to do with the batteries it's to do with communication between the inverters.
If you want to go with the aoboet over the pylontech, crack on, you only need to justify it to yourself, not other randoms on the t'internet, but if you are just relaying information from an installer,  then I'd advise looking for another installer as this one is feeding you bull, and thats never a great start.

If I had to guess, call me cynical,  but I'd guess that pv pro/homeswitch/think renewables/infinity innovations are offering deals to installers to promote the use of the aoboet batteries over the pylontech as right now they are the only suppliers of them, whereas lots of people are now selling pylontech.

There is only one benefit of the aoboet over pylontech and that is that they offer better performance at 0c, so if you are storing them in a cold garage etc, that's a benefit in the winter.

EVandPV

Totally agree with all the above by SC.
Even the temperature argument is moot if you consider some decent insulation for the older Pylontechs. If you store them indoors, temperature doesn't enter the equation at all.
I can see no real benefit to the Aoboet batteries other than to increase the retailers profit  margins (cynical hat on also).
Your choice, but I know what I'd do.

abeezar

I agree that the companies you quoted actually belong to a same owners.  Yes 2000c is slightly expensive ( bec dod is 95%). So 2000B (plus) justifies its lower price. Adv of C series is I could have gone with us3000c. So in all PL are widely available can be source from any supplier for future proofing.  I will be having my system in the garage so temperature will be play a role in winter (greater London)..but I could do some insulation during those months. 

Thanks again to EVandPV and Solarchaser.I  wanted to sought opinion and justify choosing PL.

EVandPV

abeezar said:

I agree that the companies you quoted actually belong to a same owners.  Yes 2000c is slightly expensive ( bec dod is 95%). So 2000B (plus) justifies its lower price. Adv of C series is I could have gone with us3000c. So in all PL are widely available can be source from any supplier for future proofing.  I will be having my system in the garage so temperature will be play a role in winter (greater London)..but I could do some insulation during those months. 

Thanks again to EVandPV and Solarchaser.I  wanted to sought opinion and justify choosing PL.

I think that's the right choice. 😉👍

Solarchaser

abeezar said:

I agree that the companies you quoted actually belong to a same owners.  Yes 2000c is slightly expensive ( bec dod is 95%). So 2000B (plus) justifies its lower price. Adv of C series is I could have gone with us3000c. So in all PL are widely available can be source from any supplier for future proofing.  I will be having my system in the garage so temperature will be play a role in winter (greater London)..but I could do some insulation during those months. 

Thanks again to EVandPV and Solarchaser.I  wanted to sought opinion and justify choosing PL.

The advantage of 95% over 90% really isnt that big.
I have 8 x 2.4kwh pylontech that on my previous sofar inverter was 20%dod so total of 19.2 but only 15.36 useable.
When the lux offered 10% dod that put me to 17.28 so just shy of 2kwh more which was a welcome bonus, but hardly earth shattering. 
If they were at 95% it would be just under 1kwh extra, so ok a kwh is good,  but thats on 8 of them at at the extra £150 for the c, that's £1200 more for 1kwh.
It would really make more sense to buy an extra 2000plus etc and have an extra 2kwh for less money imo, or chuck in another £200 and get an extra 4kwh

You should always try and work out batteries on (usable) £/kwh imo, and for that reason alone the 2000 is better value for money than the 2000c in my opinion.

But anyway to answer your question, yeah pylontech are available from multiple suppliers, a quick ebay search will give you some idea.

Good luck with whatever you choose 👍

abeezar

Agree . So will be going for 2 LUX AC Squirrel Pods ( Parallel) with 8 x 2.4 PL. ( Bank 2x4).
Solarchaser, Did you buy the Pylontech from Infinity(Jake)  or just the 2 LUX AC controllers?
Just finished reading the long navitron thread