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No water meter but almost a 95% price increase?

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  • Hasbeen
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    edited 15 March 2021 at 1:07PM
    freesha said:
    Hasbeen said:
    Band A to Band B will increase your water sewage bill.

    Look it up on your council/water suppliers website, what you have to pay?
    Wrong. RV has NOTHING to do with CT.
    Ok. No problem. I was partially correct. Depends on where the OP and you reside.

    Because we do not have any rates or ratable values here for domestic properties?

    Here it has EVERYTHING to do with CT. Your Charges 2021 2022 - Scottish Water

    About Your Charges 2021-22

    The vast majority of households in Scotland are billed by their local authority for their water supply and waste water collection services together with their Council Tax.  These charges are referred to as unmeasured charges and are based on the Council Tax banding of the house.  

    It is all calculated by the band. The council issues a combined bill for council tax, waste and water charges

    Businesses here do have ratable values
    The world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon
  • Cardew
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    Hasbeen said:
    freesha said:
    Hasbeen said:
    Band A to Band B will increase your water sewage bill.

    Look it up on your council/water suppliers website, what you have to pay?
    Wrong. RV has NOTHING to do with CT.
    Ok. No problem. I was partially correct. Depends on where the OP and you reside.

    Because we do not have any rates or ratable values here for domestic properties?

    Here it has EVERYTHING to do with CT. Your Charges 2021 2022 - Scottish Water

    About Your Charges 2021-22

    The vast majority of households in Scotland are billed by their local authority for their water supply and waste water collection services together with their Council Tax.  These charges are referred to as unmeasured charges and are based on the Council Tax banding of the house.  

    It is all calculated by the band. The council issues a combined bill for council tax, waste and water charges

    Businesses here do have ratable values

    The OP states he is with Northumbrian Water
  • Hasbeen
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    edited 15 March 2021 at 1:26PM
    Cardew said:
    Hasbeen said:
    freesha said:
    Hasbeen said:
    Band A to Band B will increase your water sewage bill.

    Look it up on your council/water suppliers website, what you have to pay?
    Wrong. RV has NOTHING to do with CT.
    Ok. No problem. I was partially correct. Depends on where the OP and you reside.

    Because we do not have any rates or ratable values here for domestic properties?

    Here it has EVERYTHING to do with CT. Your Charges 2021 2022 - Scottish Water

    About Your Charges 2021-22

    The vast majority of households in Scotland are billed by their local authority for their water supply and waste water collection services together with their Council Tax.  These charges are referred to as unmeasured charges and are based on the Council Tax banding of the house.  

    It is all calculated by the band. The council issues a combined bill for council tax, waste and water charges

    Businesses here do have ratable values

    The OP states he is with Northumbrian Water
    Thankyou did not know England had such a completely different system. 

    Moved away from London when I was younger, so/and have never bought any property there.
    The world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon
  • Cardew
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    edited 15 March 2021 at 3:11PM
    Thankyou did not know England had such a completely different system.
    England and Wales moved in April 1990 from Rateable Value(RV) to the Poll Tax and then Council Tax. From that date Water meters became mandatory on virtually all new build properties.
    As pre 1990 Water Charges were based on the RV, existing properties were given the choice to remain on RV based charges.


  • Hasbeen
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    Cardew said:
    Thankyou did not know England had such a completely different system.
    England and Wales moved in April 1990 from Rateable Value(RV) to the Poll Tax and then Council Tax. From that date Water meters became mandatory on virtually all new build properties.
    As pre 1990 Water Charges were based on the RV, existing properties were given the choice to remain on RV based charges.


    We do not need water meters. None required in new builds. There is more than enough water here.  :'(  LOL
    The world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon
  • sgun
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    edited 18 March 2021 at 11:44PM
    I am with Northumbrian Water in a 3 bed detached house in Northumberland, when we moved in our bill was around £50 a month. We got a meter fitted and now we use about £18 a month. The  previous owners were on an assessed charge and they paid around £30 a month. Our old house was a 2 bed terrace in Gateshead and we paid £21 a month (no meter, just normal billing). So I think your bill seems odd in that it has suddenly gone up so much. I would say that Northumbrian Water customer services are some of the most helpful I have dealt with - if you phone them they will probably be able to shed some light on your bill. 

    Northumbrian Water charges have gone down significantly from last year so there is something not right about your bill.
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