UKCPS Parking Charge

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PCN cancelled.

Thanks for all the help. 

nosferatu1001

The GP are able to help, IF they are the landowner. Are they?
Have you found the newbies thread?
Dont ask for personal help, please. C-M is hugely busy

D_P_Dance

It is not a fine, have you read this?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles/nhs-patient-visitor-and-staff-car-parking-principles

Have you complained to your GP?

Ditzy_Mitzy

I read it as there being a car park which is shared between the GP practice and some shops.  Certain spaces are designated for the GP practice, for patients to park in; other spaces are reserved for the use of shoppers.  Driver was a GP practice patient but, inadvertently, parked in one of the 'shop' spaces rather than a 'GP' space.  He has raised the matter with the GP, which has replied that it is powerless because the car was not parked in one of the practice's designated spaces.  

Coupon-mad

Unless driver can prove going to a shop / provide receipt, the £100 charge is valid. 

Not if the signs and lines were not crystal clear to mark the delineation and difference between the bays.  And I don't mean small print on that wall sign!

Ralph-y

complain again at the surgery .... if they say that they can not help then ask who is the land owner / landlord?

Ralph

Coupon-mad

If people send me messages I rarely have time to respond as I am working full time again now.

Coupon-mad

Where is a sign telling the driver about a contract to pay £100?!

KeithP

That image on the Notice to Keeper shows that the car was parked in front of a sign...

Going back to Google Street View, we can see the sign on the wall immediately in front of where you parked.
Can you get pictures of that sign?
It has big letters ATTENTION! on it but the rest is too small to make out. I suspect it is unreadable from that railing in front of it too.

Fruitcake

You have left the VRM showing on the NTK.

Fruitcake

Approach from the main road. This is a public road with single and double yellow lines. The blue sign dead ahead reads Patient Parking Only, and in smaller writing says, Further Patient Parking at the rear of the building, with an arrow pointing to the right. Since no parking is permitted on the road it is reasonable to assume that this sign refers to the main car park on the left, and overflow parking at the rear
With regard to the main car park, the scammer's signs are on the passenger side and would be obscured by a vehicle door pillar. In addition, a driver's attention would be drawn to pedestrians entering or leaving the medical facility, and the yellow warning sign just in front of the lady in the background.




The car park entrance. The yellow warning sign on the right reads, "WARNING All unauthorised vehicles entering this zone will be CHARGED £25 to allow exit. There are collapsible plates in the entrance between the two white hatched areas. Presumably these can be raised to prevent exit without authorisation or payment.
It is reasonable to assume that someone using the medical facility would be authorised to park.



Once in the car park (looking back at the entrance) there are white signs with blue writing on the walls. These begin, ATTENTION, Private Land, This site is managed by UKCPS. The rest is illegible so if there are any Ts and Cs including a charge for breaching them, they are much smaller than the attention grabbing word, ATTENTION, and not at all prominent or capable of forming a contract.



Following the direction and instructions from the blue sign at the front, a driver would see a loading bay and two parking spaces adjacent to the rear corner of the medical facility, with identical white signs and blue writing with the words ATTENTION, Private Land, This site is managed by UKCPS.



There are no signs evident at all warning that the two parking spaces at the rear of the medical facility are not for the use of people visiting that facility.
There are no signs warning that the space is not part of the medical facility, or that they are only for use of motorists visiting shops not related to the medical facility.

It is reasonable therefore to assume that "The man on the Clapham Omnibus" would believe that such a space at the rear and immediately adjacent to the medical facility was indeed a parking space for Patients Only as indicated by the blue sign at the front, and that the additional blue sign would refer to even more Patient Parking spaces.