Extended Furlough to Include..

Yeahbuddy

Will the furlough extension include people who were employed after the 30th October 2020 or will these dates remain the same? Thanks. 

poppy12345

The dates haven't changed and if you weren't on the payroll by 30th October 2020 then your employer can't furlough you.

MattMattMattUK

It is not even confirmed what format the extension will take, although Johnson and Sunak have both said support will continue, but whether it will be restricted by industry for example.

But no one will know until the budget next week, the likely answer is no, as to do so would further increase the cost.

Grumpy_chap

There would be a lot of logic to further extension only including industries still restricted after 12th April.  Closing furlough in steps as opening is allowed.  This could still include some specific support ongoing, for example air travel if still impacted even though permitted to operate.

CreditCardJunkie

Honestly, I'm affected by this daft cut off date too and as a taxpayer all these years who has never claimed anything, it is so insulting. 

Yeahbuddy

CreditCardJunkie said:

Honestly, I'm affected by this daft cut off date too and as a taxpayer all these years who has never claimed anything, it is so insulting. 

Isn't it just! I have a solid 15 years of full time work paying income tax, start a new job on November 19th and boom, company closed for lockdown and no support available other than measly Universal Credit which doesn't even cover my bills. What are we supposed to do?! 

Arnisdale

Yeahbuddy said:

CreditCardJunkie said:

Honestly, I'm affected by this daft cut off date too and as a taxpayer all these years who has never claimed anything, it is so insulting. 

Isn't it just! I have a solid 15 years of full time work paying income tax, start a new job on November 19th and boom, company closed for lockdown and no support available other than measly Universal Credit which doesn't even cover my bills. What are we supposed to do?! 

I've paid NI and income tax for 50 years and there is no 'help' for me either...we all just have to get on with it as there has to be some sort of cut off point.

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Yeahbuddy said:

Isn't it just! I have a solid 15 years of full time work paying income tax, start a new job on November 19th and boom, company closed for lockdown and no support available other than measly Universal Credit which doesn't even cover my bills. What are we supposed to do?! 

Gosh, did you get any indication from pre interview research that the company were clearly in trouble if they were having to do lay offs, furlough and the like? Could you not try for another job with your strong work history. What if the job turns out a mis-fit?
Personally I started a job in January, was meant to be a Collections Agent but grimly ended up as Sales Agent. As my biggest downfall I was just to confident in an interview to receive a reject for the Collections role) It was hell as I genuinely wouldn't have freely wanted to do sales all day, every day for 42 hours plus of a week, never mind cover for someone off sick so didn't I wish lay-off and lockdown closure was the milkey bar kid, truly. I knew it was pretty bad when a couple of the customers wished me good luck as I was wrapping up calls. I was responsible for getting into and out of the position, totally kick myself for not demanding paperwork when all I got in the lead up to job starting was a Covid assessment.
Anyway after working to get 5 weeks pay, in a week, I got out there to other job interviews who confirm this is some sort of boom time as people refuse to go to physical interviews for non work from home vacancies. 1st offer was a 6 month FTC but has ended up paying more per hour then the sales job even and 2nd offer of a permanent role with a company that has goals going through to 2022, whilst there was acceptance of same salary as that of my 2020 ex employer to get in and really fortunate that they didn't clock my commute time! that would still see me going back out to work in less then a month honestly.  Both employers had to re-advertise as they didn't get enough candidates to interview on the hiring of multiple roles at this time.

sheramber

The OP says the business was closed by lockdown. Nothing to do with whether it was in trouble but closed down by the law.

MattMattMattUK

CreditCardJunkie said:

Honestly, I'm affected by this daft cut off date too and as a taxpayer all these years who has never claimed anything, it is so insulting. 

It is not daft though, it has to be set before the announcement, not after, as otherwise upon the announcement being made a company owner could employ all their friends and family and claim the money back from the government. 

superbigal

For those above who cannot be furloughed and the company has been closed for lockdown.
Presumably your contracts state you will not be paid in these circumstances ?
Otherwise you should still be getting paid or laid off.