newcastle living

srhoden

hi we are trying to help our daughter find a house to buy in newcastle-she is renting- i am sure i have seen a post on here advising not to buy in old mining areas but can’t find the post again. does anyone know where these areas are as we have already paid for one survey that threw up potential problems from old mining. many thanks for any advice 

cattom

you will need to have what ever house you looking at surveyed and ask for the mining issue to be included in that. there was a house on homes under the hammer last week, that someone bought at auction, and after the sale, found out there were two mine shafts in the garden! so in that area all ways do your homework, and get that survey.

BrownTrout

there is nothing wrong with ex mining areas, !
There is no issue with old mine shafts near by as long as they have been properly treated. In Northumberland and country Durham, hundreds of old mine shafts every where. or some where like Wigan/Somercotes full of ex mine shafts!  
Depending on the age of the mine shaft depends on how its been treated.  a lot of the older ones in county durham were simply filled.  where as the newer/bigger ones were properly treated and capped with a huge concrete cap
Where are you looking?
There is so much ignorance when it comes to buying in ex mining areas people shouldn't be allowed near the house buying process

FreeBear

Here's an interactive map you can zoom in on to find most mines -https://www.nmrs.org.uk/mines-map/coal-mining-in-the-british-isles/collieries-of-the-british-isles/coal-mines-england/

sgun

Most old mining areas round Newcastle are fine - I lived in an ex-colliery house in outer Gateshead for 20 odd years. We only found out there was a fairly major seam running just under the back yard when there was an application for a 200 house development on the field at the front of the house. It didn't show up in my survey when I bought or on the survey of my buyer when I sold so assume it was deep enough to not be an issue. The foundations on a lot of the ex-colliery houses can be shallow depending on their age.

Some old mining areas have other problems though - houses are cheap for a reason but some areas you can get a bargain and live in a lovely community. Where have you been looking?

diggingdude

BrownTrout said:

There is so much ignorance when it comes to buying in ex mining areas people shouldn't be allowed near the house buying process

That's a bit harsh. Clearly daughter is a first time buyer. Historic mining is far more worrying than many posts we see where the plaster has cracked etc 

youth_leader

I live near Amble in Northumberland, lots of people here drive the 34 miles into Newcastle for work.  Houses are reasonably priced, nice people, up and coming area, gym with a swimming pool, new Morrisons, shops, harbour, and beach.    

BrownTrout

sgun said:

Most old mining areas round Newcastle are fine - I lived in an ex-colliery house in outer Gateshead for 20 odd years. We only found out there was a fairly major seam running just under the back yard when there was an application for a 200 house development on the field at the front of the house. It didn't show up in my survey when I bought or on the survey of my buyer when I sold so assume it was deep enough to not be an issue. The foundations on a lot of the ex-colliery houses can be shallow depending on their age.

Some old mining areas have other problems though - houses are cheap for a reason but some areas you can get a bargain and live in a lovely community. Where have you been looking?

some mining areas in the northeast are very run down, like areas of dawdon colliery/blackhall colliery/easington are quite run down areas, but the coast itself is lovely
unless there is any shaft collapse there is unlikely to be any movement, given the fact most tunnels would have been subjected to roof crush etc , so no more more movement
Of course you see some cases where shafts not properly treated and so the fill slumps , but not very common

BrownTrout

diggingdude said:

BrownTrout said:

There is so much ignorance when it comes to buying in ex mining areas people shouldn't be allowed near the house buying process

That's a bit harsh. Clearly daughter is a first time buyer. Historic mining is far more worrying than many posts we see where the plaster has cracked etc 

Historic mining doesn't really cause subsidence (unless a shaft that was filled has slumped)  Subsidence in long wall mining happened when seams were mined and as the as Longwall face advanced, the void behind the mined area would fill (Goaf) and thus the collapse further up the ground happened
This is why you get what are called "flashes" in many ex mining areas which are shallow bodies of water caused by subsidence from long wall mining, many which now form wetlands and bird habitats 

Nile_E_Coyote

There's loads of areas like it around the North East. Wouldnt worry about it too much tbh. There's bigger things to worry about when I bought.

srhoden

thanks for all the advice. yes daughter is new nurse and first time buyer and has just effectively lost £700 on a survey of a property she liked due to can only assume mining in area- water logged garden/building slippage-movement and much more work than she would be able to fund so thank you brown trout for your tolerance - not as yes when it comes to mining we would be ignorant. everyone else thanks for great advice😀