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Fence issue with neighbour

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  • zoob
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    My thoughts, if the old fencing was standard panels then I'd base pricing off what's owed on that style off panel, anything priced above that and I'd say the homeowner that chose it would be responsible for the extra
  • IvanOpinion
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    I had to go and dig my old invoice out.  Late last summer I had about 6m of fencing put up.  Not the panelled sort, the sort that is built from scratch.  New posts in the ground, cemented in, horizontal runners attached and vertical planking to the height of about 6-7foot.  Also included additional bracing to an existing dwarf wall for the first 2m.

    Cost of materials was £240, cost of putting it up was £180 (took 1 man and his young assistant about 3 hours).
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  • I had to go and dig my old invoice out.  Late last summer I had about 6m of fencing put up.  Not the panelled sort, the sort that is built from scratch.  New posts in the ground, cemented in, horizontal runners attached and vertical planking to the height of about 6-7foot.  Also included additional bracing to an existing dwarf wall for the first 2m.

    Cost of materials was £240, cost of putting it up was £180 (took 1 man and his young assistant about 3 hours).
    That tallies with my experience.  About £70 per metre.
  • the_lunatic_is_in_my_head
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    edited 17 February 2021 at 1:56PM
    Pollycat said:
    I’m. Happy to pay half of the materials approx £200 for me to pay him. He wanted the fence done. And did everything on he’s terms etc. I never agreed to pay for the lot. He said split the costs. Thank you 

    Do you think it's fair that you also pay for half of the labour as the fence didn't erect itself (even if you didn't 'employ the neighbour')?
    Do you think £200 labour for the time it took is a fair price?

    I too would be disgruntled if someone didn't get my approval to buy materials and engage labour before going ahead with work and then was cheeky enough to send me the bill for the full cost.

    Who does the fence actually belong to?

    I think there's a bit of a difference between paying for labour when someone has been hired to do a job and covering £200 in cash for a neighbour to help out. 
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  • Pollycat
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    Pollycat said:
    I’m. Happy to pay half of the materials approx £200 for me to pay him. He wanted the fence done. And did everything on he’s terms etc. I never agreed to pay for the lot. He said split the costs. Thank you 

    Do you think it's fair that you also pay for half of the labour as the fence didn't erect itself (even if you didn't 'employ the neighbour')?
    Do you think £200 labour for the time it took is a fair price?

    I too would be disgruntled if someone didn't get my approval to buy materials and engage labour before going ahead with work and then was cheeky enough to send me the bill for the full cost.

    Who does the fence actually belong to?

    I think there's a bit of a difference between paying for labour when someone has been hired to do a job and covering £200 in cash for a neighbour to help out. 

    I was just asking the OP if he thought it was fair.
    I didn't say it was fair.
  • Pollycat said:
    Pollycat said:
    I’m. Happy to pay half of the materials approx £200 for me to pay him. He wanted the fence done. And did everything on he’s terms etc. I never agreed to pay for the lot. He said split the costs. Thank you 

    Do you think it's fair that you also pay for half of the labour as the fence didn't erect itself (even if you didn't 'employ the neighbour')?
    Do you think £200 labour for the time it took is a fair price?

    I too would be disgruntled if someone didn't get my approval to buy materials and engage labour before going ahead with work and then was cheeky enough to send me the bill for the full cost.

    Who does the fence actually belong to?

    I think there's a bit of a difference between paying for labour when someone has been hired to do a job and covering £200 in cash for a neighbour to help out. 

    I was just asking the OP if he thought it was fair.
    I didn't say it was fair.
    They way it was told to me he’s neighbour was helping him out. I told him I would make a contribution. It’s sorted now he’s said we would go 50-50. Which was what was agreed from the start. I was expecting to pay £200 ish 
  • Pollycat
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    They way it was told to me he’s neighbour was helping him out. I told him I would make a contribution. It’s sorted now he’s said we would go 50-50. Which was what was agreed from the start. I was expecting to pay £200 ish 
    So are you paying half of the £675 and half of the £200 labour?
    Back in June my neighbour wanted to put up new fence at rear of he’s and mine garden. It’s my fence that’s missing 3 panels. As I don’t line there I’m not bothered it’s a BTL property. So he says I’m going ahead to do it myself with help of neighbour. He says do you want to share the costs. I said I have no work I will sort it out at a later date. He wants it done so he can sell he’s property. 3 months later he text me I owe him £675 for my share. And over £200 cash to neighbour for helping him out. None was agreed by me. Nor was the materials etc amd price agreed by me. Before work commences. It turns out the then he sent me the total bill for everything. No sharing the costs as he put it. All I said is I wouid contrribute at a later date. No price agreed before or during. No way I’m paying £675 for 3 panels. I have now sold up before him. I am happy to pay half the. Material cost but no more as I did not employ the neighbour 

    Did he give any explanation why he sent you the bill for everything, rather than half?


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