Fence issue with neighbour

williamgriffin

Steveffc69 said:

Keep_pedalling said:

You sound like a terrible landlord. Your fence falls apart and you don’t give a toss about fixing it because you don’t live there. You my not live there but for your tenant it is their home and they have a right to expect their landlord to to carry out basic repairs like this.

Thank you I’m a very good landlord you only have to ask my tenants. That was not the point I was making.  

Were they happy you sold their home?

Boohoo

williamgriffin said:

Steveffc69 said:

Keep_pedalling said:

You sound like a terrible landlord. Your fence falls apart and you don’t give a toss about fixing it because you don’t live there. You my not live there but for your tenant it is their home and they have a right to expect their landlord to to carry out basic repairs like this.

Thank you I’m a very good landlord you only have to ask my tenants. That was not the point I was making.  

Were they happy you sold their home?

I am reading that the OP is a landlord and has a BTL property.
I don't think the OP is selling the property but it is the neighbour that is selling up.

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head

williamgriffin said:

Steveffc69 said:

Keep_pedalling said:

You sound like a terrible landlord. Your fence falls apart and you don’t give a toss about fixing it because you don’t live there. You my not live there but for your tenant it is their home and they have a right to expect their landlord to to carry out basic repairs like this.

Thank you I’m a very good landlord you only have to ask my tenants. That was not the point I was making.  

Were they happy you sold their home?

If OP has sold the house it's still the tenant's home unless they have chosen to leave or the long process to remove them has been completed, otherwise they'll just have a different landlord. 

justworriedabit

the_lunatic_is_in_my_head said:

There's typically no obligation to repair a broken fence, the exception would be if there is a convent in the deeds specifically requiring a fence whilst noting clauses that simply require a boundary to be maintained doesn't require a fence.

If you own certain animas that roam free in the garden you have an obligation to keep them within your property so if the tenants have a dog for example then repairing the fence would likely be seen as the correct thing to do. 

Bit harsh to have a go at the OP, who is to say the tenants don't care or that the fence is behind bushes and can't be seen? 

£875 to replace just 3 fence panels is far too much. 

OP with the above in mind unless the neighbour can show you agreed to half the actual cost then it's their choice to repair the fence and I can't see they have any claim if they can't. 

Best post here.
The bit about 875, depends who was used as around where we live they charge loads of money and vat on top of everything and clearing the old stuff etc and any retaining work, etc. But as I said, great post.
I totally agree  with some here being too "hars with OP" sadly that kind of stuff puts people off asking questions or coming back as I've noted on other threads.
Good luck OP.

sheramber

I am reading that the OP is a landlord and has a BTL property.
I don't think the OP is selling the property but it is the neighbour that is selling up.

First  post
 I have now sold up before him.

williamgriffin

Boohoo said:

williamgriffin said:

Steveffc69 said:

Keep_pedalling said:

You sound like a terrible landlord. Your fence falls apart and you don’t give a toss about fixing it because you don’t live there. You my not live there but for your tenant it is their home and they have a right to expect their landlord to to carry out basic repairs like this.

Thank you I’m a very good landlord you only have to ask my tenants. That was not the point I was making.  

Were they happy you sold their home?

I am reading that the OP is a landlord and has a BTL property.
I don't think the OP is selling the property but it is the neighbour that is selling up.

According to the OP he's sold it. 

Steveffc69

Aylesbury_Duck said:

davidmcn said:

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Sounds like you owe him half the cost, as per your verbal agreement.

It doesn't sound to me like there was an agreement beyond in principle to look at doing it at a later date.

I wasn't sure.  The way this was worded -  "So he says I’m going ahead to do it myself with help of neighbour. He says do you want to share the costs. I said I have no work I will sort it out at a later date." - made it appear that OP had implied he was happy for the work to go ahead and would sort his share of the costs at a later date.  Of course, there is an alternative interpretation, that "sort it out at a later date" refers to the whole job of fencing, and not just sorting out the shared cost.  Without knowing exactly what was said I think it's impossible to say.

Bottom line is that OP can walk away and pay nothing, and their ex-neighbour could pursue it through court if they were so inclined.  Whether they'd get anywhere is another matter.

As I  understood it. Costs were split. Because my place sold. He sent me a bill for all of the costs. That I did not agree to. Happy to pay him half of the materials. But he wanted it done and picked he’s style etc no quote or estimate was agreed or offered 

Gavin83

It's all entirely irrelevant anyway, this topic isn't about the obligations of being a landlord. I also don't see an issue with the OP selling a house they own either and I say this as someone who has been kicked out of a rental property due to a sale.

In regards to the actual post I agree with some of the others. In your position I'd be asking for proof of the costs (as they seem excessively high) and then paying half. Technically if you refused he'd probably struggle to recover the money but none the less you didn't really refuse when he raised it with you and therefore I'd say you're morally obligated if nothing else.

Steveffc69

Gavin83 said:

It's all entirely irrelevant anyway, this topic isn't about the obligations of being a landlord. I also don't see an issue with the OP selling a house they own either and I say this as someone who has been kicked out of a rental property due to a sale.

In regards to the actual post I agree with some of the others. In your position I'd be asking for proof of the costs (as they seem excessively high) and then paying half. Technically if you refused he'd probably struggle to recover the money but none the less you didn't really refuse when he raised it with you and therefore I'd say you're morally obligated if nothing else.

I’m. Happy to pay half of the materials approx £200 for me to pay him. He wanted the fence done. And did everything on he’s terms etc. I never agreed to pay for the lot. He said split the costs. Thank you 

Pollycat

Steveffc69 said:

I’m. Happy to pay half of the materials approx £200 for me to pay him. He wanted the fence done. And did everything on he’s terms etc. I never agreed to pay for the lot. He said split the costs. Thank you 

Do you think it's fair that you also pay for half of the labour as the fence didn't erect itself (even if you didn't 'employ the neighbour')?

Do you think £200 labour for the time it took is a fair price?

I too would be disgruntled if someone didn't get my approval to buy materials and engage labour before going ahead with work and then was cheeky enough to send me the bill for the full cost.

Who does the fence actually belong to?